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So there is a condolence card in the break room for one of my coworkers who’s dad just died. It has a bible verse on the front and may God give you peace stuff inside. I don’t really want to put my name on it. Would you?

LisaL81 7 Aug 22
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I'd go out & get a different card, one that was bereft of any sentiment I didn't fully support.

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Listen, Lisa. You are a self, and you have your name.

You are your own property to do what you want with yourself. That's your immutable right, and no one can ethically try to coerce you into doing stuff. Self is a sacred, invaluable thing.

Absolutely nobody should be stupid enough to assume they can tell you what to do, what to think, etc. because those people are already proving themselves as inferiors by making their filthy and base reactive assumptions.

That being said, you should never have the inclination that other people should tell you how to be, because they have one brain for one body, to start with. People who think they can extend past themselves are simply egotistical and have low intelligence.

If you want to write your name, write your name. Don't want to? That's 10000% okay, and a NON-REFLECTIVE TRUTH.

You might certainly write someone else's.

Hell, you can even write the name of the father that died. You can even use a man's handwriting if you want to. That would be funny as hell. I make jokes about people dying all the time. After all, I'm not the one sitting clueless about how to bring them back, it's the inferiors that do that with their stupid anti-science policies.

I don't care if you even draw a Hippo, you can draw one. I'm sure some of the men on this site will enjoy beating their meat to it if you posted a picture, anyway, considering some of the women they go after.

Write nothing, and pretend to write something. That's another idea.

Take a piss on the damned card, if you want to. It's called "there's a bigger picture".

Ultimately, your turnouts are going to depend on you doing the right thing, and nobody has any right to tell you what to do. Women should know this shit, it's 2019.

The men know it, and they live it much moreso than anyone else.

Why haven't you gotten with the program?

@LisaL81

Any thoughts on this? It's been a month.

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I would. My message would be entirely godless.

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I'm a non-theist. But I respect that most humans NEED a religion. It is a harmless well-wishing card to the family. As to the Bible verse, if it has no meaning to you, that's fine. Isn't it for family and friends -- how may Jews or other religious people signed? Let it be.

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I'd just write my name inside.

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If it is part of a group effort you can take solace that you did not choose it, and do not share the sentiment. You could probably simply sign your name with an "I am sorry for your loss", and call it good. Unless you were a close friend with the co-worker, then you might prefer to get your own card.

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Buy your own card.

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since you did not buy it you can say something like rest in peace,

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I don't sign anything that goes against my belief system.
I've written my own card or spoke personally to them.
Follow your conscience

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Do as you please. I would.

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Nothing wrong with a personal one of your own. Even if it's an email or single card. I've put about that I like doing my own thing.

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It would depend on if I knew the person or not. I see these kinds of cards all the time and to me it's no big deal. It doesn't affect my lack of belief one way or the other. Let’s face it such cards for the living and if it makes my friend feel better then fine.

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Religion should never be part of the workplace under any circumstances, particularly if people are forced to participate in something of a religion they don't agree with. It is unethical, but many people are so immersed in it that they often don't know any better and refuse to learn respect for diversity. You can sign it with a couple comforting secular words perhaps. It is important to keep your job and avoid conflict. Not an easy situation to be in.

well we certainly can't accuse you of trying to force your opinion on us now can we?

@JeffMesser no opinions there, only established standards of decency and a suggestion offered. What's your problem?

@ChicagoMike trying to coax you into taking a stand. make you say something controversial.

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Write on it that you are sorry for their loss OR get your own card that says a similar thing and give it to them.

I am hank, and I agree with this message

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Lucid dreaming, do you believe in that stuff?
Yeh, I dream a lot but I'm not aware that. I'm dreaming though I do make decisions in those dreams and reflect on consequences in the dream though I don't know if that's lucid dreaming.
Unlike when I was young and dreamt being chased by a monstrous gorilla, my dreams are mostly quite pleasant and I enjoy them. Some are set in the home where my now decased parents lived, others on some mythical places with wonderful oceans with warm water and islands where we hunt for fish with spears and swim.
Unfortunetly I don't have any sexy dreams, well I sort of do but wake up just as the good part is about to start (maybe the Catholic backround).
Do you dream when in REM sleep and do you briefly remember them when you wake up?

One of us lost our way

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I'm much like that these days with regards to submitting to being included with things related to god and religion. A couple of years back I decided to not partake anymore and one thanksgiving I was asked to join hands at dinner for prayer and didn't do so. My cousin Eric tried to grab my hand to force me into doing so, but I didn't. He kind of got irritated and tried to insist, and yet I didn't allow it. That thanksgiving gets together was an outlier after the Grandparents decided that staying in Florida was a new way, and wouldn't be going back and forth from Michigan to Florida anymore. I haven't been offered to come back to it since lol. I don't really care though if I do.

Maybe just get your own thank you card and hand over?

I get your meaning, "own thank you card" ??

@HankSherman Oops, that was a rushed nonedited response due to having to leave for work.

I meant "Give your own condolences card". I'm not sure what I was trying to convey with the last bit at the end. Lol.

@Vintenar I knew that........I very often lose my way in a conversation.....just good to know I'm not alone out there.

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Depends on if I liked the coworker. either I would say something like Im sorry for your loss' Or.. Nothing at all. someone elses grief is not the place to espouse your own views.

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I would sign, unless the recipient was atheist.

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Buy & post. a secular card and sign it with your best praise for your co-worker character during his time of loss and mourning for his dad....don't sign the religious card and invite your co-workers to personalize their signature like you did on your card....if anyone asks you why anything about the bible card just say your traditions about funerals do not resemble the first card and everyone could buy cards according to their traditions.... don't use religious words and keep showing sympathy and hope the company sends flowers to his house or funeral home

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