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My life as an asexual........... (Warning lots of sex mentions)

I was made fun of in school for being grossed out by big breasts and not finding breasts to be sexually attractive. I could only ever really understand what a cute person was and was (Still am) most often baffled at why someone would call someone else sexy, like what exactly is sexy?

I would cry when I got to the point of puberty because I thought a sexual relationship was somehow the magical vista of indications for being wanted, as an autistic that was (Still is) for the most part an outcast, being wanted was something I greatly yearned for. When that misconception broke my interest in sex began vanishing in a haze of confusion over time. When I would think what I had for someone was sexual attraction, it was really just me liking them as a human being and viewing them as a good potential reproductive partner, I was never able to look at someone and just desire them for sex. The closest to that I'd ever get is seeing how someone expressed themselves or enjoyed spending their time and becoming curious about them, but that curiosity rarely ever lead to wanting a relationship or anything with them.

I once dated this college girl named Colleen and during a discussion I mentioned liking the idea of being the one to take another's virginity, when my birthday rolled around she offered her virginity to me but I had an epiphany in that moment, I did not actually want her virginity, I just wanted to feel wanted and deep inside I feared sex being introduced to the relationship as I felt it would blindside me to other means of affections if it was something she required in the relationship (It did). I told her no multiple times but was unable to put into words why as I was just then starting to come to terms with such while not knowing what it meant. In the end she ended up guilt tripping me into accepting the offer of her virginity and over time I felt she made it absolutely clear that sex was something she required for her relationship and as a result I had a hard time feeling loved unless she was willing to have sex with me every so often while deep down inside, the introduction of sex to the relationship was simply a burden, I felt much more wanted before sex was introduced so forcefully. The reality is, not only do I not feel sexual attraction, but sex is just not very enjoyable to me, sure I like the intimacy and closeness of it, but it stops there.

Anyhow Colleen wasn't my first, I've slept with a total of nine women so far, Colleen was the 5th. I went through stages of having sex to feel wanted, having sex because I kept hearing it signified a healthy relationship, having sex because it seemed to be the only way a partner felt they could comfort me, having sex because it was pushed onto me, having sex because sex was provided to me to help me feel wanted by a partner who happened to be polyamorous and then providing it for her because she felt unwanted by her other partner as it hurt me to see her like that, having sex as an attempt to get things I wanted from my partner (She wanted sex but I did not but was willing to trade sex for things I wanted..... this partner ended up breaking into my house after I broke up with her and raping me), having sex to try and enjoy it (Massive failures) or to understand why I did not enjoy it as others did and to build theories on how that could potentially be remedied, having sex to release tension in a partner that refused to masturbate, and then finally at the point I prefer...... having sex for reproduction. All together I can definitely say I've had too much sex, I kinda feel like I betrayed and violated myself in a way, but on the other hand I just did not understand myself enough to understand what was really going on nor did I really self-reflect on things before I left Christianity.

Anyhow I eventually learned that I was in fact asexual, but I was pushed kicking and screaming because being both autistic and an atheist I already knew all too well the despair or being so different and was afraid of learning that there was yet another alien thing about me. The first thing I learned was that wanting offspring of your own did not exempt you from being able to legitimately identify as an asexual, the second thing I learned was that asexuality is the lack of sexual attraction and that sexual attraction was the very thing I lacked that made me unable to desire someone for sex.

Anyhow, I've ran into a ton of acephobes and ace erasers. One was a family therapist who disturbingly said "If you don't feel sexually attracted to your wife, where did your son come from?" thus disturbingly signifying that the therapist was a pedophile as she was unable to separate the desire to have children from the desire for sexual pleasure. We reported her and filed a complaint, we were there to see a therapist not because my asexuality was a problem in the relationship (As it is not) but because my wife's mother's actions were (And still are) causing a strain on our finances and relationship, not to mention our mental health. Anyhow another acephobe accused me of expressing sexual attraction to her and "Staring at her breasts" and refused to back down from such after I explained that her necklace was of interest to me.... her and her friends later on spread the claim that I was a homosexual -_-. Anyhow This acephobe was also a trans-gendered person and when I saw how relentlessly she clinged to assaulting me with the accusations that I was sexualizing her I tried to make a point by pretending to refuse to acknowledge her gender identity, well, she then spread the claim that I was a transphobe and was completely unable to see that I was just trying to give a taste of her own medicine as she was refusing to acknowledge my identity and completely ignoring that I was known for selling jewelry in that social group and was also known to have a love for jewelry as a form of individual self-expression. So all the clues were there but apparently now I am seen as a homosexual transphobe who apparently was able to "Fool transgender people into being my friends".

In all honesty, when it comes down to it, allosexuals disgust me as I've seen what they've been able to be motivated into doing by their ability to feel sexual attraction. I feel smothered by what I can only refer to as "Allosexual culture" and unfortunately only have one working means of coping with that smothering feeling I have: To indulge in sexually based humor (Exceptions include humor that normalizes (Or proclaims something of such to be true for everyone) fetishes and/or sexual behavior, paints all of one gender in the same light (Overly Sexist jokes),or fails to paint things of a sexual nature in an absurd light).

In the end I ended up marrying a woman for her companionship and conversation/activity range, I chose a polyamorous female because well, if she wants sex I want her to keep her options open as I just don't enjoy it like she does and well finding an asexual female with her range of conversations and activities that also wants children of her own just seems unrealistically specific.

Secular_Squirrel 7 Oct 17
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We're all human by degrees. If you're right with yourself, then so be it.

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There is actually a positive side to being asexual. The human race would have probably terraformed and colonized all of the planets in the solar system by now and sent a manned mission to the Andromeda galaxy if 98% of the population didn't spend 99% of their time trying to get laid.

My point is, focus all of your energy on what it is you want to accomolish and contribute to the human race before your time on this big blue rock ends. You might find the cure to all disease while everybody else is out looking to get in to someone's pants.

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This makes me think of my future step-sister Susie. I wanna say she's on the spectrum like multiple other people I've met, but it's more like she's spectrum-y and poorly tended to because she gets neurotic, kind of both misses and bumps into other people's physioneural approaches and she has problems with movement; I don't trust the rash approaches taken by people, almost all of which are complete idiots, who use paltry diagnostic methods.

So she can be considered as not just outside of normal, but beyond that in a way that can cause a spectrum diagnosis.

Now even with the detail that you're asexual, it doesn't look like you have had less partners than the average person at all, in fact probably more. It looks like you've managed to peel off a strip of recurrences in your life, and scrutinize them out of context, but you're not looking at something that is accurately layered in such a way. It's unfortunate that you haven't been in a position where you were able to tell those partners off, and command respect.

The way you're looking at your past is fragmented, and looks like an attempt at balancing a matrix, where one sort of focuses on key variables, and tries to work with them, but in this case, that's not exactly a fruitful analytic in itself.

What your life is really is has to do with how your overall health, capacities and functionality changes over time, and taking these strips of recurring details isn't really going to be much utility for that reason. You might be implementing a defective "nose" for utility, as well but learning to sniff out utility is totally learnable, no worries.

By looking at your life the way you are, you're not addressing whatever life purpose you've made for yourself, if you've even done that yet.

But you can't ignore those feelings you get, man. What that really is can be any collection of the following:

  1. A means of concocting some really bad brain and body chemistry
  2. A way of literally breaking yourself down, and making yourself sick
  3. A way of creating a harmful environment for your nerves. When you have strong negative feelings, it alters the ideal environment for your brain and nerves, causing reduced function. You don't want that. Things like waking up early, meditation, exercise, etc. will remove toxins, balance out your body chemistry, and fill in a lot of mental "holes" that get created by certain behaviors, assumptions and emotions.
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I’m on the spectrum. It has it’s pros and cons.

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Seems you have been abused/coerced alot sexually as well as needing to come into your own confidence and esteem (so your worth did not rely on others' desire of you) by sexual people... Good to read you finally accepted yourself for who you truly are and stopped having sex for all the wrong reasons... as a demisexual I need a bond with someone before I can be sexually intimate and it is sometimes described as a type of asexuality (which is funny cuz we are not, we just don't desire to screw someone we find hot or sexy, before getting to know them). Just know not all of us "allosexuals" are as disgusting as the ones you have had unfortunate or terrible experiences with. Enjoy your poly relationship 🙂

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So you are a triple A.

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The most recent episode of The Good Doctor touched on the central character's aversion to touch, and a desire to procreate. I also recall the Sheldon Cooper character on The Big Bang Theory having similar expressions, although that character was never explictly diagnosed as autistic.

I can only personally relate to asexuality while having been medicated for depression, otherwise I have always preferred to be touched. Your story has added depth in ways I had never considered about my own experiences, thank you.

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I love your wording.. too bad don't leads to men, I find you to be attractive in your wording.

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Ummm, if Colleen took your virginity, how in the hell could she be #5 of 9 ??? There is something seriously wrong with this narrative, and you. Bu-bye.

He took her virginity was my understanding

HE took HER virginity. She was #5 for him. And there’s nothing wrong with his post or him, for that matter.

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Thanks for sharing, but why did you?

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Fuck, I hate to say this but from reading this and the comments I think I learned more about pedophiles than asexuals. This is partly because I also identify as asexual, and altough I can't say I have experienced the same degree of abuse you have experienced.

I guess I never thought about it, but the connection between sexual desire and desire for children seems retrospectively obvious.

Do you think being autistic has compounded the issue, possibly by allowing others to take advantage of weak social skills, or failure to identify your companions emotions early on? The only reason I ask is because every time I have been approaching a situation like the ones you described, I have always talked my way out of it or avoided it altogether.

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I am sorry about the abusive comments you have received here. I appreciate you opening up here and helping me understand a little bit more what being asexual is like. Someone close to me has told me that she is asexual and I am having trouble understanding. I can see some advantages. Sexual attraction can lead to poor decision making and emotional upheaval. It's doing that to me currently. I wish the best for you. I think that being introspective the way that you are in post is a good start.

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I have trouble understanding this and I also do not put numbers on women. There is no way I can tell you who was first or second, etc. as it was all not a milestone event when it happened. All I know is that things do happen and people do have sex.

@Secular_Squirrel Yes, it does help. I know some homosexuals of both sexes but I have no desire to screw men. I'm also aware that we are all human beings and should be treated as such.

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I also missed the reason why the therapist is a pedophile. But thank you for sharing this story. You clearly are not perfect, and it was refreshing to read you divulge such. Most people try to make themselves the hero of their own story. Hopefully your new relationship provides you with what you're looking for.

@Secular_Squirrel I don’t think @SeekersNeverFind was intending to attack you. I didn’t read his comment as such, in fact he thanked you for sharing and complimented you for your honesty.

I also do not see the connection between wanting children and getting pleasure from sex (with an adult) as pedophilia.

@Marcie1974 : As I understood it, it was her inability to understand that one can want children but not enjoy the sexual act itself that caused him to think this. After all people can not want children but enjoy sex a lot. Why could she not understand that some might not like the sex but still want children? I would think a therapist would be able to understand that.

@Joanne when you say want children....do you mean want sexually? Then I can see the pedophile angle.

If you mean wanting to parent a child, but not enjoy sex....I see no relation to being a pedophile

@Marcie1974 : I meant wanting to be a parent, not wanting them sexually. Not his exact words, but I think he stated, and I don't know enough about it to agree or disagree, that not being able to separate sexual desire from the desire to have children is a flag for being a pedophile. She could not understand that he does not enjoy sex but has fathered a child.

I can completely understand that a person who might not enjoy the sexual act could still want to have children (be a parent). And, if they could be a parent without having to have sex, that would be the best case scenario for them. But, because sex is necessary, they do it so they can be a parent.

I am perplexed that a therapist could not separate the desire to be a parent from the desire to have sex. I am not saying I think she is a pedophile, as he seems to think she is, only that I find it odd.

@Joanne thanks for clarifying. I completely agree that one would think a therapist (or anyone really!) would understand that a person could want to be a parent, even though they lack the desire to have sex in order to conceive one.

As with you, I do not see how that would make the therapist a pedophile.....definitely uneducated on the fact that there are various sexual categories, but not a pedo. Really not seeing how one would jump to that conclusion.

@Joanne I am pretty sure my ex husband either always was, or eventually became asexual. We became very incompatible because, for me, physical intimacy, including sex, is an important part of how I express and receive a feeling of love in a romantic relationship.

I’m sure it was just as frustrating for him, having no desire for sex or any type of touch (hugs, hand holding, etc) but having a spouse that needs that to feel fulfilled in a relationship.

I don’t think either is right or wrong, there are infinite layers of sexuality. I think the key is finding someone who feels similarly as you do.

Unfortunately my ex refused to have any discussion about it so I just ended up feeling hurt and confused. I assumed That I am just so plain looking or ugly and my body must be too disgusting for him to want to have sex with me. that’s a tough thing to get over and I’m still struggling with what I assume is body dismorphia 2 years later.

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