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Christians continue to be a swiftly dwindling demographic in America, a study released on Thursday from the Pew Research Center shows.

The report confirms what researchers had long been observing - that the US has a growing number of religious “nones” ; folks who identify as atheist, agnostic or “nothing in particular.”

Atheists now make up 4% of American adults and agnostics make up 5%, compared to 2% and 3% respectively in 2009, Pew reports. About 17% of Americans say they are “nothing in particular,” up from 12% in 2009.

The “nones” are increasing across multiple demographic groups and in all regions of the country, the researchers say.

So more white, Hispanic, and Black Americans, more men and women, more college grads, and those without college degrees, are now religiously unaffiliated.

[yahoo.com]

birdingnut 8 Oct 18
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Cool! The problem is, we all know that a cornered animal that fears for its life is very likely to lash out in a last ditch effort to survive. And they are very well armed and trained.

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Good news!

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Wow, more than double in ten years non believers.
At this rate, in another decade means more than a 1/3 to half Americans wil be non-believers. That means, they could catch up to the happier countries.

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But the problem with growing non-religious is they tend to be younger, not many of my generation.

One thing I learned about Trump evangelicals, and I tend to find this true, they are “evangelicals” who don’t attend church??!! You call yourself an Evangelical and don’t go to church?? But neither does Trump.

I bet more Agnostics know more about religion than Donald Trump.

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I had a random Christian apologist in youtube comments try to engage me in conversation yesterday. So I went to his channel, and none of his videos had more than 100 views. He had a couple on how dogs disprove evolution with no more than 30 views (and these were videos that had been up for at least 6 months). I considered watch a couple of them, asked myself why...and left.

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I think the reason more people are becoming "nones," especially among people with some college, is critical thinking skills. When people look at the Bible, or any other religious text, logically they realize it can't be anything but stories by people who knew very little about how the world worked.

Yup, but thanks to a study done on fanatics, it was found that these people have underperforming metacognition centers in their brains; they are unable to recognize anomalies and contradictions in their beliefs, even when confronted with direct evidence.

@birdingnut I read somewhere that the longer we hold beliefs based on no evidence, the stronger we believe them even in comparison to beliefs we hold based on evidence that continues to pile up.

Maybe this explains why the flat earthers are so zealous about the earth being flat, and the rest of us simply acknowledge the evidence that the earth is round and move on with our lives.

@greyeyed123 I dunno. Or maybe my metacognitive brain centers are more intact than other fanatics, but I have slight OCD, a fanatical personality (think Sheldon in Big Bang), and I used to also be a fervent Christian..mostly based on my own ability to control the environment, and that my every prayer or even wish would magically happen.

I somehow knew it was me making things happen, while also rationalizing that it was divine intervention, despite evidence to the contrary...e., that things I wanted happened, whether or not they were "godly" or even a wise choice for me.

I somehow put up with all the cognitive dissonance, but I kept distancing myself from Christian organizations.

@birdingnut I can't say I was ever very religious, but in the '90s I was very much into UFOs/Aliens/ abduction conspiracies. I remember reading about alien stories in South America, and they bore virtually no resemblance to the ones in North America. I concluded that they must be false simply because they were unfamiliar. The stories and details I was familiar with, I regarded as true...because I had been familiar with them longer. They evidence seemed strong, as long as you already believed it. It took a long time to realize this, but mostly I lost interest because if a fraction of the stories were true, over time there would be better evidence than what we were getting. And we weren't getting any.

@greyeyed123 I not only read about UFOs since I was little in the 1950s, but my dad saw one in Texas when he was hunting jackrabbits as a boy..very close up. He said it was small, like a drone, following the power line, with a wire neck attached to the power line. I saw plenty of UFOs, alone, in groups, with my friends, with my family, with a large crowd of people I knew at a church camp weekend, in the US, in Haiti, one even followed our car in 1973 for 300 miles, stalling it once when it hovered directly over the car.

@birdingnut I get where you are coming from, but I am no longer convinced. My dad saw one also, when he was a teenager. But the guy he saw it with was known to take drugs, sometimes LSD. He bumped into the guy a few months ago, and he doesn't remember the incident at all. I'm old enough to have seen a few strange things in the sky, but I can't say I know what they were, or if it was just my perception. In the '90s, we just had the crappy video cameras, and there seemed to be hundreds of videos. Now everyone has a high definition camera in their phone, and youtube to post in on, and they seem to have dried up. These kinds of things are troubling to me if what I thought the phenomena were in the '90s is actually what they were.

@greyeyed123 Yeah..the sky was thick with UFOs until the mid 1970s, when I stopped seeing them. I didn't see any until 2005, when I was on a star gazing date and saw a low orbit vehicle, about the size of a small house, obviously made by humans because it was blue, with yellow frame edging on the portal-like windows. The inside was lit up, and it tumbled slowly through space; I could see the windows rotating around the module. I then knew the government was a total liar. I knew that anyway, but this was proof.

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I'm glad more people are feeling able to identify as non Christian.

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Good news

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Good move. atheists unite!

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We are moving in the right direction

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I'll still believe in flying monkeys no matter what anyone says.

Oh me too! I saw video of them! Wizards and witches too! Oh, and munchkins! I believe in all that sh¡t! There is no God though!

@Coffeeman Ya done seen them there monkeys too?

@PondartIncbendog There HAS to be god; he has a twitter account and I'm friends with him on Facebook..hilarious posts, LOL!

@birdingnut Ok, I'll agree. A Flying monkey god?

@PondartIncbendog His avatar is a comical old man with white hair and long white beard.

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I hope we get to 50% very soon..

100%!

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I imagine that one day the modern humans will live in a secular world. No more killing in the name of God.

I love this song by John Lennon
Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today (ah ah ah)
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion, too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace
You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world
You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one
Source: LyricFind
Songwriters: John Winston Lennon
Imagine lyrics © Downtown Music Publishing

I love that song. They always play it at the beginning of Freethought Radio. FFRF.

Great song!

@bradnyijuan I love free though radio!

But no mention of Santa!! Don’t most agnostics believe in Santa?

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The day it becomes 100% non religious will be a great day.

Right on!

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