I want to thank all those who served in war or during times of relative peace for this Nation. We commit to serving our country , and though there is no winners in war, to some extent with this world be ruled by force, having a military that is formidable allows our citizens to enjoy the lifestyle they choose versus what many have forced on them.
@JesseThompson for some reason you have become fixated on this one particular aspect of what a soldier is or does . Your mindset suggest the qualities of a person who categorizes the many based of the actions of one or a few . There have been many atrocities committed during war by soldiers and civilians alike . Your ancestors are the biggest proponents of rape , pillage and genocide to ever grace this planet , but I don’t hold all of them accountable. You would have thrive as one who would have sat in judgement during Salem witch trials , condemning those who did not share your views . There are countless stories of soldiers assisting and helping those who were and are affected by war , I have seen it first hand , any soldier that sat back idly and watched any war crime is not a soldier but a coward because we live by the Geneva convention . A soldier is obligated to follow that code of conduct, so your source is a coward . As far as your rhetoric, you are welcome to it but it is based in nonsense and in reality you would be slaughtered by those who would want the resources your land had to offer , unfortunately that is real life . Have a wonderful day , and I will do the same .
@JesseThompson I justify nothing Sir , you have a position and can’t see past it . Anyone that commits war crimes should be persecuted. You are trying to support your argument by implying I support that , get real .
@JesseThompson Take that argument to
El segundo or somewhere else . There are plenty who are serving in Leavenworth for crimes , the military doesn’t broadcast their business in the public . Are there some who have escaped justice absolutely but that life unfortunately. You categorize many for the actions of a few , your type of rationale is what spawns dangerous Environments . History has shown us that . How about you start advocating this publicly to bring awareness as you believe needs to be instead of being a texting warrior. Get involved if there is such a travesty happening.
@JesseThompson I was in a standing army and your blanketed statement in regards to blind obedience only further illustrates my point . War unfortunately is a reality, standing armies have existed way before you and I where a thought . Until the masses globally decide what we don’t want them anymore it will continue. Real life .
I am a veteran and i don't believe in heaven or hell.
I like the bumper sticker I saw the other day that said " I will be opposing the next war".....Since most of us realize that since Vietnam every war has really been more about oil, resources, or empire, rather than the actual defense of the US or innocent people abroad.
Vietnam Conflict was about Nothing... IT WAS NOT A DECLARED WAR.... Technicallities of an Evil Empire. France gave it up... and ameriKKKa saw an Oportinity to Expand its Evil Capitalist Empire.
@GipsyOfNewSpain I agree that the Vietnam War was about both empire and the fear of communism.
Hua, glad your home and missed TET. Glad you lived long enough to see a time where you were not spit on returning home, like my brother.
Still get the 1000 yard stare on seeing blue blue sky?
We did this at work.
One of my very talented co-workers did the artwork, one of our assistant managers did the frame, the 6 photos are co-workers who are veterans & the photo album on the table is for employee's families or customers who are veterans.
Thank you to all who serve or have serve AND your families.
@JesseThompson shut the fuck up! If you do not like the military fine but quit being an ass! Yesterday was veterans day & whether you like it or not, they are the ones making it so you can voice your horrible opinion. You want to worry about pedophiles go after the church! There are far more pedophiles there. Also, there are probably as many pedophiles per capita in your town as there are on any given base (minus out priests in both categories). Start a campaign in your neighborhood but get off a thread for Veterans made on veterans day. You are just making yourself look despicable.
@JesseThompson do you realize you spew incoherent ramble? Not one thing you type makes any sense what-so-ever. And the simple fact that you cannot keep a thought long enough to have one continuous paragragh/paragraphs but have to keep coming back with random nonsense would be laughable if you were not so pathetic.
You can hate all you want but the people you are spreading your hate toward do not deserve it. Not any of the men on this thread are what you describe. They are honorable men who did what they believed was needed - which did not include any of the things you are accusing ALL military of doing.
If you do not like how this country is run get off you ass & change it. But to sit here, attack people and call people you do not even know unfathomable names is, as I have said before, pathetic.
@JesseThompson Oh for fucks sake when have I ever said anything about a standing army? You put those words in my mouth because you have been in a continuous rant for 2 days. All I have said is be fucking respectful to the people who have served! Maybe if you would get your head out of your ass for a second you would realize you are the only one ranting about pedophiles & standing armies. All I have been saying from the first comment is to have some respect for those who started this thread & who spoke to 'their' service.
If you do not like the military, fine, start your own thread. If you think can actually manage a coherent post that others can respond to. Or maybe that is why you are being belligerent on here - no one will comment when you make your own post. Now, that is truly .... what was that word? Oh yeah, SAD!.
@JesseThompson damn dude try some reading comprehension! I never said I do not know what a standing army is, I never said I was for or against one - you are so full of yourself you do not read what people are writing. Once again, so MAYBE you will get it -START YOUR OWN THREAD ABOUT STANDING ARMIES, PEDOPHILIA OR WHATEVER YOU WANT BUT QUIT BEING DISRESPECTFUL! You are being an absolute ass. PERIOD. Why? Because it makes you feel like a man? Well guess what you aren't. You are behaving like a petulant, spoiled rotten 2 year old who is stomping his tiny little feet screaming his damn head off because he didn't get a cookie. Just shut up.
@JesseThompson how many times do I have to say shut up? Being respectful to those who did serve is not the same as supporting war. If you do not understand that simple premise you need to learn!
You are wrong about voting! You are wrong about your assumptions of me. Go away! Make your own post - what is so hard about that?
@JesseThompson seriously - talk about cognitive dissonance..... you have some serious mental issues.
@JesseThompson and every single one I have met appreciated the acknowledgement what is your point? Nevermind I do not care.
@JesseThompson you have missed the point for 2 days. Take your rant to a post you made, obviously the person who posted this is ok with people thanking them. Also, ALL of the veterans in my town who saw our display and thanked us for doing such a wonderful job on it appreciate our intent.
@JesseThompson then have a fucking brat just like yourself and teach them however you want. I will go to the ballot box, work with candidates & use things within my power to make the changes 'I' can. And until the day I die 'I' will Thank any veteran 'I' choose.
Once again, TAKE YOUR PERSONAL RANT TO YOUR OWN POST. WHAT PART OF THAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
@JesseThompson for fucks sake go away!
Nevermind I can fix this - by the time you read this you will be blocked.
I don't understand this kind of logic or reasoning.
I don't regret wars in the pass, I only regret if I don't discourage them into the future.
About 90% of countries worldwide are prodominate are Religious wars.
To my fellow veterans: Thank you for your service.
@JesseThompson It is true that not all military actions are justified. But we do need to be prepared to defend ourselves in case we are attacked.
Thank you for your service!
@JesseThompson wow, just wow! If you have a problem with wars make sure you go to the ballot box, make sure you write your congressman/woman, picket DC but to attack a Veteran on Veterans day is pathetic. The majority of veterans have ZERO say in what happens or where they are sent. Being an ass toward any veteran is disgusting! They are doing a job, no different than a fire person, police officer or EMS worker/volunteer.
@JesseThompson holy shit - I NEVER said military should not be held responsible if they break laws, that is just ignorant. But veterans do NOT start the wars! Governments start wars (well, and religions). If you do NOT like war do something about that but do NOT blame veterans for those wars! As I freaking said 'write you congressman/woman, picket DC, be sure to vote! But do not be an add to a Veteran on Veterans day.
Yes, I googled your Brutus Papers and only found that it was a series of essays penned by someone calling himself Brutus (considered to be 2 people one from Poughkeepsie & one from Salem) that opposed adoption of the proposed constitution. Did not find anything stating we should not have a standing army only they disagreed with part of the constitution.
As far as Dresden, who makes the decision to bomb anything? Politicians & Generals. Period. The majority of our military are enlisted, even many of the officers are just following the orders. IF possible, in a perfect world, everyone would have all the information where all bombs are going to be dropped but that is not possible. They have to go with the information they have, if they don't have info to dispute it - they have to follow orders.
@Lincoln55 Jesse sounds like she's on drugs or something. Ignorance, poor writing, etc. Sad.
@BestWithoutGods There's something wrong in that patch. Anyway, I sent a message to the mods. She/he won't be here for long. Doesn't sound like a person that complies with rules. Any rules.
@Heidi68 Thanks for the defense. I'm not sure but someone is missing at the clinic.
I'm a Vet. I am sorry for the Vietnam war. But at that time in history, communist hatred was high. Later in life, I watched Vietnam become a thriving communist market and still have human abuse cases.
But that is not our concern. We already did enough damage to "bring democracy" to the "ignorant".
We in the USA have human abuse and are doing nothing about it.
We can no longer dictate other countries political future.
@Heidi68, @JesseThompson What kind of juvenile insult do you want to throw my direction? I'm tough. Doesn't mean a thing but shows off your lack of manners and respect.
@Lincoln55 Oops. I saw a name that could be male or female, and a blurry photo with long hair, and I assumed Jesse was a she. My bad. I have just now looked at his bio, and see that he grows weed, so I still think he may have been high when writing these posts. And you are probably right about the conspiracy theories, too.
@JesseThompson Maybe if you wrote more coherently we would get what you're trying to say.
@JesseThompson So, we should depend only on citizen militias like the National Guard for our defense?
@JesseThompson I agree that the military should be for defense, not for initiating conflicts with other countries.