A history lesson : : the consequences of immigration and the self destruction of culture : : : and the crime and racism of the immigrants. . . . Ethnic groups always want to live with those who look like them, talk like them, eat and dance, live like them. . . But white people are "racist" if they want to do this. . . . That assessment IS racist and the most agregious form.
I cannot imagine our country without the amazing contributions of the Irish, the Italians, the Chinese, the people of color from everywhere, throughout our history. Our food, our music, our outlooks have been immesurabley enriched & improved by each successive wave. And their persevering spirit in the face of hatred of "newcomers" is a true inspiration to all of us!
Amen.
That's not the point. He foretold what is happening now in the UK: 1000 knifings in london every month by immigrant gangs. Primitives. And they keep coming here:::
Every place that have received immigrants immediately has an increase in crime caused by the immigrants.
Here's another: the crime caused by the somali invasion is significant for all the places they have3 settled. Minneapolis is no longer a safe place.
@BitFlipper That's not the point. He foretold what is happening now in the UK: 1000 knifings in london every month by immigrant gangs. Primitives. And they keep coming here:::
Every place that have received immigrants immediately has an increase in crime caused by the immigrants.
Here's another: the crime caused by the somali invasion is significant for all the places they have settled. Minneapolis is no longer a safe place.
@Jacar according to Google their downtown after dark does have more crime. I think you could say that about Any urban area after dark. Hardly the "OMG stay away/move away" you are pushing.....
@Jacar take your xenophobia somewhere else, please.
Tribalism is wrong anytime and anywhere. Your words are so obviously wrong it causes me to question your motives. Are you agitating us to get points on here? You must know that history is full of empirical evidence to prove you wrong. So why do you ignore this overwhelming and obvious evidence? Are you really that blinded by confirmation bias? Most social scientists have concluded it is inevitable that in the future we will all homogenize to the same skin color, speak a common language, and share common social systems. At that point in time, your views will be relegated to history books where readers will be horrified by the stories of atrocities committed in the name of the Tribalism. Please see the link I have attached to just one of countless examples of the inherent problems with your views.
I don’t need or want to be reminded of this man and his pernicious influence on politics in 1960s Britain...I already lived through it and experienced it first hand. I feel very sorry for you if this is the type of racist bigot you admire, and can only think your mind has been warped by watching this sort of extreme right wing propaganda. I’m pleased to say that despite the recent unpleasant stirring up of fear of immigration by the Brexiteers and Farage & Co., the United Kingdom is still a very tolerant country and immigrants have been welcomed and indeed have prospered and by doing so helped our economy to prosper too. Our NHS and hospitality sectors would have ground to a halt long ago without workers who either originate outside of the UK or were born of parents who were immigrants.
Thank you for posting. This serves as a reminder of an age when naked bigotry was allowed to broadcast, nowadays it is now a sub culture.
I think that the biggest thing that people forget is that humanity has always migrated, just now we have "borders" and value judgements as to a persons worth. Sadly, to me, these judgements seem to be based upon a one dimensional, economic value; disregarding the cultural, historical, educational and so many other facets that make up a person contributing to society at large.
Your parents & grandparents, if already here, said The Exact Same Things about the Italians, Irish, Chinese, and etc, and lookie, here we all are hating the next group because we choose to remain ignorant. Duuuuhhhhh.........
Every now and again people ask me how I'm going to feel when the black man outnumbers the whites in America. I admit I haven't given a lot of thought to this but I can imagine I will feel pretty much the same way as I feel now.
BTW, white is not a race and there are no white men. I've never seen one. Black is also another color (not a race) and there are no black men. If our earth is compared to a box of crayons all of us will be the colors inside of it. Colors may turn up in any order inside the crayon box.
I remember that speech by Enoch Powell.
I remember what he said "That the black man will have the whip hand over the white man" and that "England will run in rivers of blood".
I also remember him being kicked out of the Conservative party. (If only the GOP was as moral in its decisions?)
I remember him going to join the Ulster Unionists (another bunch of bigots if ever there was one).
I remember his death in failure and false prophecies.
I also remember the race riots of the 80s. When my part of the city erupted in violent conflict against a racist police force. Fueled by high unemployment and a govt that used the underclass as fodder.
I remember seeing black kids being joined by white kids from the other side of town. And when the black kids asked why they were there? Them being answered with "You think that you are the only guys who have been beaten up by the bizzies?"
History has proven that he was full of shit then and you are full of shit now.
Similar for myself. I remember being in Brixton during the riots, the night sky red with fire and punctuated with flashing blue lights.... I met my ex-wife then and there. Now I study social sciences and this is part of my mini-disertation.
Immigration is a natural part of human societal growth - look at the invasion of north America by Europeans. Gone are the 100 nations, replaced by a mish-mash of humans from all across the planet.
Is this horrid man a hero of yours?
@OwlInASack Best not get out the reruns of Till Death Us Do Part, then!
Thank you for this very enlightening story. Too bad so few understand it has become a defining issue of our time. Unfortunately, too many don't understand what this issue is all about and will come to the wrong conclusion.
Again, horseshit
@OwlInASack You won’t see many people complaining about the Curry Houses in Bradford. I went to what I think is the oldest in Bradford, the Karachi in Neal Street, in the 90s. Packed out on a Tuesday and the same most nights I gather.
Immigrant food has mainstreamed into British culture, so I see no argument to not embrace our fellow travellers.
@OwlInASack Just before we invaded Iraq one of our senators, Patty Murray went on a fact finding mission to that country. She was branded a traitor. Trying to understand is a far cry from supporting. There are always a middle road. Now we look back and see those against this ill gotten war were right.
I watch, listened to the link and heard things others probably missed. As soon as he made certain comments people immediately turned off. I did not know of him so listened. I believe, during this time most immigration to Britain were from it's colonies especially in Africa and India and were dark skinned. My late partner was from Iran and also dark skinned. I saw this issue more about immigration than race (of which there is no such thing). A big part of Brexit and the move of some country's including the US has excessive immigration at it's core. We need to stop placing people as the issue and start looking at policies that affect all people, immigrants and citizens alike. My late partner understood this clearly and was the most reason based person many of us have ever known. People are not more important than dirt. It is the system that sustains us (natural, economic, political) that we really need to maintain.
I refuse to follow a certain tribe especially when that tribe uses finger pointing and name calling as a first response.
@Geoffrey51 This is an international phenomena. I visited England many times before Indian food was so popular. Britain was noted for it's tasteless food and is one reason why Indian fare became so popular. However this is a hidden problem. In the amazing film series "Wartime Farms' it is shown Britain was very dependent on imported foodstuffs and the Germans tried to starve them into submission with the U-boots sinking of ships. England put food self-sufficiency on the forefront and increased local farms which saved the day. Recently, our PBS put out a video that showed how our increasing love of international dishes has actually made the US a net importer of foods. We are quickly of even have already lost food self-sufficiency.
@JackPedigo The first part of your statement is far from correct. Can’t imagine when you came unless it was during post-war rationing.
I am English and grew up in the south of England. The food was fresh, home grown and had real taste. I don’t know where you got he idea of ‘tasteless’ food. The places at which you ate when you visited were not serving you typical English fare.
The Indian food was due to the impact of immigration and the different cultures bringing their culture with them. This created variety.
@Geoffrey51 So my mind must be playing tricks? My first visit was to a rural part of Birmington. I once stayed at the Union Jack club in London. Later visited Newcastle several times. Typical roast beef and boiled vegetables. Every place I went everything was fried even the toast. This was in the early 70's. A decade later lots of Indian restaurants. Even Germany didn't get any Indian places until the early 80's and when Thai came in that was a real hit. I lived there 15 years and traveled to England many times. A close friend was from Leicester. I still remember him taking me to a famous pub called the Sirloin where the king got drunk and knighted a cut of beef, hence the name. We obviously had different experiences.
@JackPedigo certainly did. The commercial food probably left a lot to be desired in many places The first Indian restaurants were in the 60’s which broadened the palate I suspect.
Home food was brilliant. It was only in the 70s when supermarkets became popular that the quality of food deteriorated
@Geoffrey51 I even remember that during the gas embargo when we went to visit the shops we had to carry flashlights as the shops turned off their lights. This was a fun time and Twiggy was a star.
@OwlInASack Of course one side always pushes their side of an issue. It was the conservative side that criticized the senators move (she is a democrat) and, of course, people listened because it was coming from their tribe. We do the same thing. However, things are never B & W and is a lot more complex then we want to see.
With my background and concerns I saw some things in the video others either missed or simply didn't want to hear. Immigration and immigrants are two separate things in my book. One is a policy and one is about individuals. It is the policy that everyone, immigrants and citizens, have to live and when that policy breaks down everybody suffers.
@OwlInASack The first paragraph was very revealing. The cost of that premise to to simply continue vilifying the other side and any information from them relevant or not, is automatically wrong and bad. The result of that direction is what we have always had in the past and are destined for in the future, war and death.
After WWII the US instituted the Marshall Plan. We avoided further war by helping and understanding our enemy. Our Allies were mad at us (and still are to some degree). The punishment of the enemy was tried in WWI and look where it got us. An even bigger war and lots of smaller wars (Korea, Viet Nam, the Israeli situation to name a couple). What' the definition of crazy - doing the same old thing over and over yet expecting a different outcome!!!
@OwlInASack Bottom line is far more has been accomplished with thoughtful dialogue and trying to understand the other side than outright hate. We are playing into tRumps hands by the constant vilification of others and claiming our superiority. More polarization and division (remember the adage "divide and conquer" )?
My solution for hitting a brick wall is to stop, which, in this case I will do.
Damn! I really thought the US had the monopoly on white trash...
Hardly.
South Africa, anyone?
@KKGator
I'm right here!
@TimeOutForMe And there ya go!!!
@KKGator
Yip three ships of ex convicts from what was then known as Holland, rotten eggs from Belgium and outcasts from France landed in South Africa. First ship in 1652. ...and then the British came with their army because they wanted it all. As history be told the natives of the land were banished to the outskirts of their own land, stripped of everything, robbed of an education, enslaved for 100s of years and the invaders surfaced as victorious. How smart! Remember!
... and then white-skinned came here from all parts of Europe, mostly uneducated because they knew what privileges they were walking into just for being white skinned and they later donned a fake "supremacy"! Our minerals still being looted by USA and US and all of Europe. In fact being looted from Africa on the whole.
@TimeOutForMe The history of the US is no better than anywhere else.
The white Europeans who came here committed multiple genocides as they
marched west. Like locusts, they descended upon this continent and left
scorched earth and dead bodies in their wake.
Then we took it global.
I don't care what anyone says. It's not racist, it's FACT.
White people are the WORST thing that ever happened to the Earth.
EVER.
Any American who has the temerity to act like they're are in any way better than any other occupant of this planet, or doesn't have ancestors from anywhere else in the world, is a real piece of shit.
I'll carry that to my dying day.
What's your point? Were you yourself not black or colourful before you turned pale. I'm just asking.
Did Britain not become a super power by colonising other countries and enriched itself that way for too long? and continue to do so. It's called looting. The immigrants are working and living there, not looting.
This world will end up brown whether you like it or not. Your grandkids will be brown. Human beings are integrating so white is dwindling. Think brown, stick around. You're welcome
Actually, with their breeding program, we'll all be a bit grayer too.