Posted with some trepidation: Bill Gates on the Spiritual opportunity given us by the coronavirus.
NOT religious please note, but humanitarian.
NOTE: misascribed to Gates, author unknown but content valuable.
I can’t understand why so many people responding to this post can’t get passed a word.
Make a new one up for yourself so that the message is not lost for you.
Too many things going on in real life to get bogged down with semantics.
And if you are as smart as you think you are you will be able to define the word for other contexts if need be without denigrating the message.
I agree with everything he has said. I cannot understand why most people reading this are so hung up on the word “spiritual “...that is just his choice of word to express that he believes that this present crisis may be the opportunity to reset our compasses and focus our minds on what is really important to the human race...humanity! There is nothing remotely religious about his use of the word spiritual in my opinion, but I do think what he is saying is important, and I’m glad that he is using his vast fortune and fame to try to effect change.
I guess we can choose to understand spirituality as bound at the hip to religion or understand it as the human spirit, a power that can be harnesses for good and bad. Just as Jesus is supposed to have said:
You know well enough how the wind blows this way and that. You hear it rustling through the trees, but you have no idea where it comes from or where it's headed next. That's the way it is with everyone 'born from above' by the wind of God, the Spirit of God - John 3:8.
These days, we understand these things in paradigm shifts and I was just reading George Monbiot write about a possible complete change of perspective when you posted this one by Bill Gates. It will take a new shared spirit to reach the tipping point necessary to bring in a new world. It certainly sounds religious but that’s because all humans, religious or not, have a spirit that can aspire to a better way.
Works for me, and you’ll see who understands it by those who get bent out of shape or horrified or affronted by the word spiritual.
For the lack of a universal word to explain it get over it and embrace it. At this time religious or non-religious connotations are irrelevant.
And if one doesn’t get it they are being incredibly obtuse, pedantic or have had no worldly experience.
I will now pass the soap box over to the next speaker!
And so it begins, in time of crisis people who at other times would not even have entertained such ideas start clutching at straws, seeking meaning and reason in perfectly natural events over which we as species have no control.
The pathetic cowardice that leads to such arrogance never ceases to amaze me.
I try to listen to what people say and to agree with their productive ideas and I disagree with what is not productive. I see a lot of things that Gates does and says that are beneficial. Because he uses language that I don’t agree with doesn’t mean that I have to throw out his intent because of how he words it. I can even find a few things in the Bible that I think can be thought of as beneficial and worth remembering. Perhaps even the orange one has said something beneficial sometime in his life but I can’t think of anything offhand.
From the people that I have been exposed to in my lifetime and having to claw my way toward sanity...I have not known any person that was a religious fanatic, that did not have (revealed to me) major mental disorders! Some kept the people unproductive others managed to succeed in spite of their mental disorders and religious leanings. A lot succeeded because they were connected with similar religious people.
Connecting spirituality with the mentally balanced people is altogether different than what is considered in the religious community as spirituality. Mostly, the religious do not express their religion as spiritual, they express it as ‘their faith!’
I agree...spiritual does not equal religion in my mind. Spiritual means a higher way of thinking and perceiving reality. Everything can’t be seen with the naked eye. There are lessons here as in every milestone in a life! We get clearer on what is necessary and what is wasteful. We give more attention to what matters in the big picture and our little spot in it. I approve of Gates’ attitude .
But why can't we just skip the spiritual purpose/reason bullshit and just talk about what we're learning. No need to cloak it in other worldly woo woo mumbo jumbo. Just say that this is showing us these things to learn. Covid 19 did not happen for spiritual reasons. It happened because of the laws of science. And the number one thing to learn, in the words of Bill Nye, is science rules.
I did not love it. Especially hooey statements like:
"a spiritual purpose behind everything that happens,"
"9) It is reminding us that the power of freewill is in our hands."
...But I did love:
"10) It is reminding us that we can be patient, or we can panic....
...and, consequently, cause ourselves more harm than good."
For the win!
"“I’m a strong believer that there is a spiritual purpose behind everything that happens"
Finding meaning and purpose in everything is the theist mindset, not the agnostic or atheistic mindset.
Hence while this is not about a singular religion, talk of sprituality risks injecting have religious overtones into a topic that doesn't need it.
“I’m a strong believer that there is a spiritual purpose behind everything that happens, whether that is what we perceive as being good or being bad." - misattributed to Bill Gates
Ahh ...the struggle to believe in spirits and to separate them from religion continues.
"...the researchers recruited 317 participants from the U.S. and asked half to complete a spiritual exercise consisting of a guided meditation video.", "...participants who meditated felt significantly higher levels of spirituality and expressed more liberal political attitudes" [sciencedaily.com]
I remember, years ago, watching "Smokey and the Bandit," after the film, several cars raced their engines, squealed their tires, and sped away. I'm sure in their mind they were all the Bandit, identifying with the hero rather than the clumsy, antagonist, Sheriff. My young cousin broke her arm after watching an episode of Superman. She tied a towel around her neck, climbed a tree and jumped, however, because she was not from the planet Krypton, she did not fly. After the film "101 Dalmatians" was released, dalmatian sales increased. [dalmatians.us] It was the same for chihuahua sales after Taco Bell used the cute little dog in their commercials. [vetstreet.com]
Have you ever wept, been frightened, or felt elated, after watching a film, reading a book, listening to music, or watching a beautiful sunset? Many films are "guided" videos. Guided - definition: "a thing that helps someone to form an opinion or make a decision or calculation." Films, books, music, etc., try to effect your emotions, that's what makes them powerful, and they have all been used in propaganda.
"Emotion - definition: a natural instinctive state of mind deriving from one's circumstances, mood, or relationships with others. An emotion is a very intense feeling, which often involves a physical as well as a mental response and implies outward expression or agitation."
Seeing something that is beautiful can "move" us, just as seeing something abhorrent can repel us. Since we are deeply connected to our emotions, they can change us or influence us to extremes. Look at the atrocities committed by "spiritual" religious extremists.
"In 1872, Darwin published The Expression of the Emotions in Man and Animals, in which he argued that all humans, and even other animals, show emotion through remarkably similar behaviors. For Darwin, emotion had an evolutionary history that could be traced across cultures and species—an unpopular view at the time. Today, many psychologists agree that certain emotions are universal to all humans, regardless of culture: anger, fear, surprise, disgust, happiness and sadness." - [blogs.scientificamerican.com]
Yes lots of debate about the word "spiritual" - and because of that, it just really generally doesn't make sense to use the word in rational conversation. If spiritual can mean a bunch of different things -- then why doesn't one just say what they want it to mean in the first place? We have thoughts, philosophy, love, meditation, hope, etc. "Spiritual" really essentially means "magic" or "unseen forces" to most people, no matter how rationalizing it is being performed in its defense. There is so much incredible complexity and beauty in everything from entire galaxies down to little plants, motes of dust and atoms. There is no need to add magical words to it.
Bill Gates’ answers to the problems of the world are consistently focused on building corporate profits through toxic means, be it chemical agriculture and GMOs, or pharmaceutical drugs and vaccines Gates has used “charity” as a way to gain tremendous political power The true beneficiaries of Gates' philanthropic endeavors tend to be those who are already rich beyond comprehension, including Gates’ own charitable foundation Over the past 20 years, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation has given close to $250 million in charitable grants to companies in which the foundation holds corporate stocks and bonds, yet it gets tax breaks for the charitable donations it makes money from Vaccines are one of Gates’ mainstay “solutions” to most diseases. Gates has gone on record saying the U.S. needs disease surveillance and a national tracking system that could involve vaccine records embedded in our bodies
While philanthropy is considered noble, some philanthropists appear to be doing far more harm than good with their donated millions. Bill Gates, who cofounded Microsoft in 1975, is perhaps one of the most dangerous philanthropists in modern history, having poured billions of dollars into global health initiatives that stand on shaky scientific and moral ground.
Gates' answers to the problems of the world are consistently focused on building corporate profits through highly toxic methods, be it chemical agriculture and GMOs, or pharmaceutical drugs and vaccines.1 Rarely, if ever, do we find Gates promoting clean living or inexpensive holistic health strategies.
Gates Donates Billions to Private Companies
A March 17, 2020, article2 in The Nation titled, "Bill Gates' Charity Paradox," details "the moral hazards surrounding the Gates Foundation's $50 billion charitable enterprise, whose sprawling activities over the last two decades have been subject to remarkably little government oversight or public scrutiny."