Somewhere I saw a supposedly biblical story from the OT -- young David was being chased by King Saul and hid in a recess off the main part of a cave. A fearsome repulsive spider came in with David and spin webbing over the opening of the hole David was hiding in. Saul looked into the cave, saw the gossamer covering David's hiding place and said "He couldn't be in there!"
So this means yhat god sometimes sends awful, disgusting (ungodly!) things, people etc to help us (like, say, DJT?). And this is why evangelicals, etc love djt. The ot book was noted.
Did I see that on this site? What was the bible book?
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Ezekiel 4:12 God instructs Ezekeil to make a campfire with his own feces to bake some bread.
DavidLaDeau
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The most incredible thing about their planned national dominion, is the fact that most of us will not allow it to happen and I doubt they comprehend just how seriously this will not happen even if they become even more fascist and militant and organized than they already are, and they are.
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You don't get to invoke a rule that the administration can't appoint a Supreme Court Judge in an election year and get everyone to agree, then appoint one during the election when it's your turn.
This illustrates the dishonesty, the self interest, the egotism and the craven hunger for power that has to be removed even if it involves grave sacrifice, they have defined themselves as our enemy, we didn't start this, but we will finish it.
Willow_Wisp
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Sep 20, 2020
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Nothing a well placed round wont cure......!!
That story is not Biblical, it is Midrash.
Also it is not complete, in the original young David questions god s to why he made Madmen, spiders and stinging wasps all thing David feels have no purpose and are at odd with the supposed wisdom of god.
God gets pissed off at David, calls him a cheeky bastard and promises that one day Daviy boy will see why Wasps, spiders and nut jobs are all proof of HIS divine wisdom.
Through various situations years later god arranges for David to be endangered and in fear of his life three times, the first time he escapes death by pretending to be mad, the second is the Spider story and the third is David gets stuck in Saul's tent while trying to rob the mad king Saul in his sleep and only gets away because the guard is stung by a wasp. Thus proving Spiders, wasps and loonies were created by god purely for the purpose of getting David out of sit com situations a few thousand years later that he god engineered in the first place and showing how "wise" the daft bugger was..
LenHazell53
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Sep 20, 2020
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This is just a jewish tale talking about king david, kind of fan fiction as we would call it today.
As far as I remember, it's not in the bible.
By the way, Isrraeli archaeologists have said that there was no great kingdom of david.
He was merely a tribal chieftan whose life story was elaborated on.
See "David and Solomon" and "The Bible Unearthed" by Israel Finkelstein.
HumanistJohn
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Sep 20, 2020
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In 1993 The Tel Dan Stele was found in excavations in Turkey, which gives record from the Hittite archives of Battles, victories and defeats with the Kingdom of the Israelites, the founder of the House of David and his mighty armies and their alliance with Solomon against the Philistines .
So it is now seen as a lot more credible to think David did exist and was far more than a simple tribal leader.
@LenHazell53 The Tel Dan's authenticity is in question. We do know that David and Soloman were at best "Kings" of a very small village from archaeology though I would love to entertain the thought of their "GREAT" kingdoms. The remaining stories are extremely embellished legends at best.
Evidently the story is in 1Samuel 22-24
If you have read the bible, Saul hated David, because David and Saul's son Jonathan had a romantic relationship. David was Bi. When he heard of Honathan's death David said his love for him was stonger than he felt for any woman.
snytiger6
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Sep 20, 2020
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Yes it is all a bit screwed up, since David was married to Jonathon's sister, had children with her (but later threw over in favour of Bathsheba) but seemed also to have been in a gay relationship with the crown prince and was for a time possibly involved with their father Saul who suffered from fits of madness which only David could calm by playing music to him for hours on end while he slept.
I ahve always wondered at that story. The writing is horrific! After years of David playing for Saul, the next thing you know Saul totally fogets who the hell David was. He never even recalls David it appears.
@DavidLaDeau The bible has many many many continuity problems.
@snytiger6 So many that instead of going to Seminary I ended up an atheist.
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