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I was conversing with someone who does not believe the US ever landed men on the moon . Anyone else think that, or maybe has spoken with someone who does ?

evergreen 8 Apr 9
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I can't stand conspiracy theories especially in this day and age. People think the government can easily cover something up...Nixon wasn't able to and for crying out loud, Bill Clinton couldn't even cover up a blow job.

I’ve heard the same described so often by government employees … though not quite as colorful πŸ˜€

@kenriley Good point I hate the term 'conspiracy theorist' especially in recent times. I believe that there was a conspiracy to kill Hitler by some of his own staff, so I must be a conspiracy theorist.

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These nudniks pop up every so often, like the flat Earth nincompoops. I worked at a company called Rocketdyne. Ever heard of it? Probably not. Rocketdyne designed and manufactured the F-1 rocket engine. Now, being retired, and away from the field for awhile, I cannot precisely recall the thrust factor (perhaps a million pounds per engine, easily googled, I'm sure) of the F-1 engines, but it took 5 of them, I believe, to boost the Apollo capsule through the 250,000 mile trip to the moon.

We often had astronauts visit our facility just to remind us that there were real human beings putting their lives in our hands, and to remind us that quality was a very important issue. It made you think.

I also was compelled every couple of years, or so, to go to JPL in Pasadena, where they track all the manned space missions, and have seen their labs and monitoring consoles in row after row. I have also seen mockups of the Moon Rovers in their test facilities.

So, I simply mean to say from all of that that somebody spent a shitload of money and went to a considerable amount of trouble to hoax whom, and for what? Why? Why do all that just to impress, who?

@irascible I often think those people are just starved for attention.

Shit - Rocketdyne & the Saturn Five! … I’d of wanted your autograph.. πŸ˜‰

@Varn well, I must admit, that program was done by the time I got there; but the program that, essentially, took it's place was the Space Shuttle. Space Shuttle Main Engines (SSMEs) were pretty impressive, too.

I wrote this as part of a series a few years ago [zdnet.com]

@jperlow nice article, thanks. Stangeland was still there when I was there. Also, they had quit testing SSMEs at SSFL about the time I hired on, but I did get to see a couple Atlas engine tests; it was awesome.

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I have spoken with people that think such things. It is born of ignorance. There were 6 manned moon landings during which three retroreflectors were placed on the earth side face which "anyone" (It does take some large expensive equipment) can bounce lasers off from earth. We went.

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I have no patience for those people. I actually have an uncle who is a holocaust denier.

Wow, just wow. There is tons and tons of video evidence, eye witness accounts and other records.

@Humanity4all oh no....that’s all Hollywood. ? So frustrating and irritating.

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I spent 6 hours with Neil Armstrong one day, my biggest hero, I can attest all of the questions I proposed were answered to the point, quickly and honestly. From that encounter my conclusion is ; Hell yes we certainly landed on the Moon and he was the first!

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This comedy clip may help πŸ™‚

(2mins 5secs)

.....and for the 'flat earthers'....

LOL! Love it. Have to admit, though, that the accents threw me for a second.

@GothRik absolutely true about the cats.

@Condor5 I did consider warning that it was English comedy, but, didn't want to put anyone off πŸ™‚

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I have a cousin who is a flat earher , doesn't believe we went to the moon, thinks the government was behind 9/11. He is on disability and spends his days watching YouTube conspiracy videos.

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I always tend to look for the positives. Though I disagree with moon hoaxers, flat earthers and the like, I think it gives us an opportunity to exercise our critical thinking skills, affirm things that had been taught or assumed and sharpen our overall knowledge of this reality.

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You believe in the Moon?

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Ha! It's like reading the bible! No mater what you say, no matter how far fetched, some one will sware it is true. People are funnier than anybody.

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Conspiracy theories are a conspiracy.

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BS amateur radio operators were picking up signals. How were they faked.

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To me men landing on the moon is the altimate proof that there is no god, because what kind of a god would allow something that horrible happen to the rest of the universe.

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I work with some flat earthers, at first I was taken aback by how left field it was, now it's just kinda annoying

soa Level 4 Apr 9, 2018

@MrLizard I had to recently relocate to the family farm in the wilds of northern Canada. I'm a cook, and there are few restaurants around here, so I keep my head down and collect a pay check

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What a waste of time. I don't suffer fools to waste my time

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They are everywhere.

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If people actually think that, about our space program, its really sad, of course we were on the moon!!!, they might as well say Elvis, Jom Morrison, jimi Hendrix ,and janis joplin all faked their deaths, i know i should not say that so loud

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Never met anyone so dumbfounded.

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I haven't. I don't know if I could control my contempt if I did.

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I knew a man who just a few years ago in his late 60s who was extreme in his Catholicism, his distrust of government, his conservative politics. He told me the moon landing was a hoax, never happened, that it was all staged like on a movie set. After awhile we realized we had very little in common and our friendship faded. Now that I think about it, some say the exact same thing about The Virgin Birth.

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Yeah I’ve spoken with some of those idiots before

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Secret government, NSA, and astronaut whistle blowers have said for decades that the US did both..they both landed on the moon and faked a landing for the cameras, since the original landing showed alien structures and vehicles. See also videos of interviews with US presidents and science leaders admitting this, in 'Unacknowledged," seen on Netflix and YouTube.

I tend to believe them more than the US government because of all the things I've seen with my own eyes, that the goverment denies.

By the way, skip the trolling, since I'll just block you. I've learned that this website can be as bad as alt-right ones if you post something people don't agree with.

It’s not that I wish to disagree with you, but my experience informs me otherwise. Having worked in the government and for the government for most of my career, including some of the organizations you appear to disapprove of, I can tell you that, from the top down, there just isn’t enough intellectual capacity or resources to successfully accomplish a large-scale cover-up or conspiracy, and pull it off.

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Lol

Marz Level 7 Apr 10, 2018
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"I was conversing with someone who does not believe the US ever landed men on the moon."

Really? I've never met one of these people, but it seems to me that anyone who would admit, if not proclaim, such doubts is one who should be avoided! I would recommend an immediate halt to any conversation, followed by an excuse that you have something important to do, and leave. Step away from this individual carefully, without turning your back, and dodge further contact. Anyone who would deny such an incontrovertible fact is clearly not operating with a full deck, and is, at best, intellectually (if not psychologically) impaired. There's no gentle way of saying this, but people who hold such beliefs cannot be assumed to be rational, or even sane.

I don't need to step away, sometimes I'd rather stick around and seek the source of differing ideas.

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Isn’t that one over, yet..?

Varn Level 8 Apr 9, 2018
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