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The buffoon in the White House just brokered two Middle East Peace Accords, something that 71 years of political intervention and endless war failed to produce. He has now been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize by 3 separate world leaders.

The buffoon in the White House is the first president that has not engaged us in a foreign war since Eisenhower.

The buffoon in the White House promised to destroy ISIS, and kept his promise. Something Obama promised to do, but couldn’t.

The buffoon in the White House has had the greatest impact on the economy, bringing jobs, and lowering unemployment to the Black and Latino population of ANY other president. Ever.

The buffoon in the White House has exposed the deep, widespread, and long-standing corruption in the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, and the Democratic party.

The buffoon in the White House turned NATO around and had them start paying their dues.
The buffoon in the White House neutralized the North Koreans, stopped them from developing a further nuclear capability, sending missiles toward Japan, and threatening the West Coast of the US.
The buffoon in the White House repositioned our embassy to Jerusalem, something every president before him promised to do, but NEVER had the guts to do.
But for the Wuhan caused pandemic, the Buffoon in the White House has stood up to China, brought hundreds of business back to the US, and revived the US economy well beyond anything his predecessor thought possible…..without a “magic wand.”
The buffoon in the White House has accomplished the appointing of two Supreme Court Justices, nominated an incredibly well qualified candidate for the current SCOTUS vacancy, and will soon have placed close to 300 Federal Judges on the federal bench.
The buffoon in the White House lowered your taxes and caused your stock market to move to record levels over 100 times, positively impacting the retirements of tens of millions of citizens.
The buffoon in the White House fast-tracked the development of a COVID Vaccine - it will be available within months - we still don't have a vaccine for SARS, Bird Flu, Ebola, or a host of diseases that arose during previous administrations.
The buffoon in the White House rebuilt our military which the Obama administration had crippled and had fired 214 key generals and admirals in his first year of office.
The buffoon in the White House uncovered and curtailed rampant illegal immigration and widespread sex and drug trafficking in the United States and beyond.
The buffoon in the White House works for free and has lost well over 2 billion dollars of his own money in serving - and done all of this and much more in the face of relentless undermining and opposition from people who are threatened because they know they are going to be exposed as the criminals that they are if he is re-elected.
I got it, you don't like him. How special of you. He is serving you and ALL the American people. What are you doing besides calling him names?" Copy & paste These are the facts ladies and gentlemen ! Somehow liberals will find a way to blow all this off ! All they care about is their hate for the man ! All I care about is what he has done for this country !
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Here are several links supporting my original post. The bigotry, hypocrisy, hate filled, disrespectful and filthy comments you all have made on my post are downright disgusting and a clear picture of your upbringing and character or lack thereof. I did not make my post to sway anyone’s mind. I could care less what any of you think about me or my values. For a group of people that tout they are open minded and tolerant….right there are the lies. I find it humorous that some of you think that you can hurt me with your harsh words….I actually have to give a shit what you think about me for that to happen. I promise you that will never be the case. I’m a much better person than you all are combined. You are nothing more than a white speck on chicken shit.

Trump and Nobel Peace Prize nominations
[thedenverchannel.com]
[il.usembassy.gov]
Trump and Isis
[dailysignal.com]
Trump and the Economy
[forbes.com]
Trump and Deep State Corruption
[eraoflight.com]
Trump and NATO
[thecentersquare.com]
Trump and moving the Embassy to Jerusalem
[realclearpolitics.com] and moving the Embassy to Jerusalem
Trump and his appointment of Justices and Judges
[msn.com]
Trump, the Middle Class and Tax Cuts
[breitbart.com]
Trump and Covid Vaccine
[hhs.gov]
Trump on rebuilding our Military
[forbes.com]
Trump, Illegal Immigration
[wjno.iheart.com]
Trump Loses Money as President and Donates Pay to Charities
[forbes.com]
[townhall.com]

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If u want to go on w insults and tell me how better person u are or what chicken shit I am , pls do . There are not enough photo filters to cover ass in the absence of class , even if u seem to have used them all already 😂
My comment to your hilarious post wasn’t a personal opinion . It was live interviews of trump supporters . I did not made them stupid , they are who they are . Truth hurts apparently .
Oh well , enjoy your tribe .

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The OP is a classic gish gallop argument. You can't win on your accomplishments, false arguments and logical fallacies is all that's left: [en.wikipedia.org]

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You should care more about what he has done to the country, a quarter of a million dead because of his inaction.

Quarter of million dead , Glenn , nobody has that many fingers and toes to count and understand . Lower your expectations my friend 😂

@Pralina1 We passed that a month ago according to CDC there are over 300,000 excess deaths in 2020 to date and I'm going to lay every corpse at his feet. How many people died not just from Covid, but from not wanting to go to the hosp or bgeing refused bercause they were full.

@glennlab many . Worse , many have plenty of symptoms , but they rather cover up and suppress cough and lie about fever and try to go to work , simply bcz can't afford to be off , and can’t afford the medical bills if going to hospital .
I have many who come in when absolutely one step b4 bi pap machine , and still , number one question / anxiety :” I can’t afford this “.
USA is perhaps the only first world country I know that humans are afraid to get medical help bcz of bills 🥺
Ain’t that some garbage ?🙁

It’s the flu with media buzz and no one with any common sense believes that an airborne and surface holding virus could be stopped in today’s age of open boarders and public mail.

The only way it could have been stopped would have been to lock the entire world into their homes for a month. No store, no work, no gas station, absolutely zero movement. And after a month when people go out; it would probably start spreading again.

@CourtJesterI'm sorry, but I'll trust the scientists on this and not the orange buffoon. My area of expertise is not epedemiology but I know how to find one. I do understand statistical progressions and the US has the world's worst progression and one of the worst morbidity rates.

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Yeah, I don't like him. I already voted for Biden, so it's out of my hands now...all I can do is wait and hope

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Sweetheart , in case u are lonely , here is your tribe , they are calling for u .

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Friends...I learned long ago ....don't feed trolls!

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Orange Dumbo is Soo smart, I hereby nominate him for the Charles Darwin Man of the Year Award!

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Superficial all.
Bribing people to nominate you for the Nobel isn’t anything to be proud of.
In the end the buffoon in the the White House is still just a buffoon.

Obama did nothing but he got a Nobel prize. Trump at least did something to deserve one.

@Trajan61 Yea, Trump bitched and bribed and asked foreign leaders to nominate him, we know because he did it in public on TV.
Obama probably never thought about it until someone told him he was nominated, and that’s what gave Trump mental illness.
Trump is a child, a terrible dangerous child.

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Your illogic is very trumpleristic, if not downright trumpian.

All of it’s true but you liberals would never acknowledge that!

@Trajan61
All of it’s true but you liberals would never acknowledge that!

I acknowledge Trump is a buffoon...

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Just the first paragragh is classic Trump misrepresentation of the facts. He didn't broker any peace, he bribed two countries that weren't at war with Israel nor any threat to Israel by selling them massive amounts of arms, which of course means Israel gets more arms. These deals if anything make the Middle East more volatile not less, they were taxpayer givaways to the arms industry and horrible undemocratic regimes so Trump could claim them as diplomatic accomplishments. And the "World Leaders" who nominated him were minor players in fringe right wing parties. It goes downhill from there. I don't hate Trump, never did, he's just an incredibly incompetent president with no accomplishments to speak of except making the richer richer.

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So much wrong with this post, especially considering it was evidently a cut & paste from another source without consideration for whether any of it was based on reality....

Anybody can be nominated for a Nobel by anybody who is eligible to make a nomination. Trump's nominations were courtesy of a far-right Norwegian politician and a Swedish parliamentarian. According to the Nobel Prize website, simply being nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize is “not an endorsement or extended honour to imply affiliation with the Nobel Peace Prize.” STALIN was nominated for a Nobel. It's actually winning one that matters.

ISIS was not "destroyed". The territory of the caliphate in Syria was finally reclaimed, little thanks to Trump, who decided without warning to pull out our troops as a favor to Turkey's PM Erdogan, leaving our Kurdish allies hanging and ready for the Turks to slaughter. But ISIS remains a threat. “Isis is about ideology, not fighters or territory. The group has already adapted to territorial defeat by returning to insurgency in areas with pre-existing sectarian fault-lines. It has gained renewed momentum in recent months across Iraq’s northern provinces using tactics it was always more comfortable with than holding territory. In areas freed from their terror, local sleeper cells have already reappeared to spread panic and fear.” [theguardian.com]

Job growth slowed in the first 3 years after Trump took office, compared to the last 3 years of President Obama's term. Unemployment went down in all groups, but still remained higher among Blacks, while average wages remained lower than among Whites.

deep, widespread, and long-standing corruption in the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, and the Democratic party

This doesn't even deserve to be addressed. It's "deep state" fiction and only a step away from Qanon conspiracy theories.

Trump and his supporters have a deep misunderstanding of NATO. The commitment to spend a certain percentage of GDP on defense is simply that- a commitment. It's not a case of paying rent to be in NATO. And the allies were already increasing spending during the Obama administration, in response to Russia's aggression in Chechnya. (Remember Russia? The nation that hacked the Democratic party's emails, used social media to influence the 2016 election, and is doing the same thing right now, by order of Trump's good friend Vladimir Putin?)

Trump failed to hold China to account for any of its human rights violations, the concentration camps for its own citizens, and suppression of Hong Kong; and when making a speech about an intellectual rights investigation, he removed every mention of China, the only nation being investigated, for fear of angering Xi and hurting a trade deal. The tariff war has been a failure, with the US actually subsidizing farmers for money they've lost to China's retaliatory tariffs. (And thanks for recycling the conspiracy theory that China somehow deliberately "caused" a global pandemic. Science disagrees, despite what the guests on Hannity say.)

NO president before Trump promised to move an embassy to Jerusalem, because it was considered a provocative move and counter to the goal of peace between Israel and the Palestinians. We placed our embassy in Tel Aviv because, until 2017, we never recognized Jerusalem as the capital.

The so-called jobs returning to the USA were about 145,000 over Trump's first 2 years, according to a non-profit think tank; less than 1 month of ordinary job growth. And foreign investment has gone down due to his tariff wars, reducing jobs for Americans.

You can't very well credit Trump with nominating his first Supreme Court Justice, considering Mitch McConnell held the seat open for 8 months during President Obama's term, claiming "the voters deserve to have a voice in who chooses the next Justice"- a position he has hypocritically reversed by ramming through another justice in the last 8 weeks of Trump's term. And she is certainly less than "well qualified" in the eyes of 100 former colleagues at Notre Dame, who published an open letter urging her rejection.

Claiming the military was "crippled" under President Obama is as ludicrous as the rest of these fictions. It is standard Republican propaganda, however.

How can you know if Trump has lost any money serving as President, considering he won't release his taxes? Indeed, our tax dollars are financing Trump businesses, as hundreds of millions are being pumped into Trump hotels and resorts every time he or his family travel to one of his own personally owned properties, forcing the Secret Service to rent rooms there at premium rates. He has the choice of providing these rooms for free; they belong to him. Recently, Trump had VP Pence stay at a Trump resort in Ireland- at public expense- for a diplomatic conference on the other side of the country. And then there are the foreign nations that have stayed at Trump hotels, at inflated rates, because they know it's a sure-fire way to curry favor with Trump.

I haven't even brought up the nepotism involved in appointing an utterly unqualified daughter and a son-in-law with massive foreign entanglements as senior White House advisors. Or taking said daughter on a diplomatic junket to China, where she acquired trademark rights worth millions, by virtue of being the President's daughter. (You know, China, the nation Trump was so tough on?)

I could dismiss the rest of this fiction in greater detail as well, but I've become lost in the quagmire of lunacy. Suffice to say, the world you live in is not the real one.

Welcome to the real world.

You evidently are living in a dream world as Trump without question has been a far better president than that idiot Obama or for that matter better than Hillary would have been!

@Trajan61 You don't have the faintest idea what evidence is, do you?

@Trajan61 Funny, I thought I muted you a long time ago.

Statistics don't lie. For the first 3 years of his term- before the coronavirus pandemic- the average monthly jobs gain under Trump was 191,000 — compared with an average monthly gain of 217,000 during the four years of President Obama's second term.

GDP grew at less than 3%- not the 4 to 6% that candidate Trump repeatedly promised, and only marginally faster than under Obama. It also slowed to 2.1% in 2019, probably as a result of Trump's repeated tariff wars.

Trump promised to "bring back coal mining jobs". Only 1,200 jobs had come back as of 2019, compared to over 35,000 lost due to lower demand for coal.

Carbon emissions went up, which, I suppose, if you're a fan of greenhouse gasses, you can consider that a good thing. Over 90% of scientists consider it a terrible thing.

All the economic trends that began under President Obama- the stock market boom, lower unemployment, rising wages- continued under Trump.

Our overall trade deficit increased 21%, despite (or because of) Trump's supposed deal-making skills, treaty renegotiations, and tariff wars. Our trade surplus with Canada, for example, almost disappeared.

The number of people lacking health insurance rose by nearly 2 million under Trump.

The federal debt went up more than $2 trillion under Trump, as trillion-dollar annual federal deficits returned. And there’s no end in sight.

The federal debt held by the public stood at $17.2 trillion on Jan. 16 — an increase of nearly $2.8 trillion since he took office. That’s a 19.3% increase under Trump. And those debt figures are pre-pandemic. Trump and the Republicans, who controlled both houses for 2 years, have no excuses.

And let's not forget the more than 220, 000 Americans dead to a pandemic that Trump has insisted for 8 months was going away any day now, while he contradicted the advice of his own medical experts, refused to model behavior that helps reduce the spread of the disease, and in fact encourages it by hosting events that lead to multiple people contracting it- including himself, his wife, his son, and several of his top aides.

More than 220,000 dead.

America has 4% of the world's population. But, thanks to the "leadership" of Pres. Trump, we have 20% of the world's deaths due to covid-19.

And you're telling yourself that Donald Trump has been a better president than Barack Obama was, or than Hilary Clinton would have been?

Who's living in a dream world?

@Trajan61 As per usual Trajan, you never counter an argument with facts. You choose to throw insults and Call people idiots etc etc. Your Master has taught you well

The stock market was doing a lot better under Trump than it ever did under Obama especially before the Covid hit. Obama was a regulation nut. You can’t regulate business and make them do better. Also Obama wanted higher taxes and socialized medicine. He also appointed judges to the Supreme Court who don’t believe in the 2nd amendment. Obama also gave money to the Number one enemy we have, Iran. Trump on the other hand made agreements with Iran’s enemies and sanctioned Iran. He also avoided entanglements in foreign wars and wants to bring our troops home where they belong. You damn right I believe Trump is a better president than Obama and better that Clinton would have been.

@LovinLarge You liberals seem to deplore facts so what are you talking about?

@Trajan61 Facts are established on the basis of evidemce. Without evidence, there are no facts. No evidence has been provided here therefore no facts have been established. If what the OP said is true, she would have been able to provide the supporting evidence to establish it as fact. Just saying shit does not establish it as fact. Similarly, you've produced no evidence that "liberals seem to deplore facts" when in fact it is you and the OP making unsupported factual claims.

@LovinLarge So what facts have you and your liberal friends provided to refute this post? Absolutely none!

@Trajan61 The onus of proof is on the professor. There are no facts to refute because you've failed to support your factual claims with evidence.

@Trajan61 Which post? The one to which I replied with a 3 inch column of statistics? Or your very latest one?

The money Pres. Obama supposedly "gave" to Iran was Iran's money. It was paid to us under the Sha's government for arms deals that were cancelled after the revolution. The money had been sitting in a bank for decades. Not only would we have had to give it back had the case gone to the WTO, but also paid a penalty.

Trump has tried to pull out of every international alliance we have. For instance, he has made multiple threats to abandon South Korea, possibly the most volatile area on the planet, because he thinks the government there should be paying us for our troops. American soldiers are not mercenaries. We don't hire them out. We are in South Korea to prevvent WW 3. Trump has pulled troops out of Germany, emboldening Russia and raising doubts for the first time since the founding of NATO that America would follow through on our obligations for mutual defense should Putin choose to attack a fellow NATO member.

Your interpretation of the 2nd Amendment is not relevant. All judges "believe in the 2nd Amendment". What is more concerning is Trump's appointment of judges who don't believe in the 1st Amendment's separation of church and state. I would have thought that you, as an atheist, would find people like Amy Coney Barrett alarming, seeing that she said in a commencement address that "your legal career is but a means to an end, and... that end is building the kingdom of God", but apparently you don't care about such trifles as long as we don't have background checks at gun shows.

The ACA was not socialized medicine, but why bother to refute you in detail; you'll just ignore this entire reply and come up with something different.

Trump has insulted our allies, cosied up to dictators, made the US a subject of ridicule, destroyed environmental regulations, denied the established facts of Russian interference, denigrated our own intelligence services and military leadership, denied science, called a free press "the enemy of the state", and in all ways behaved as the dictator he apparently wishes he was. He has no knowledge of the law, the Constitution, the separation of powers, or the basics of democracy. He didn't even know why there's a memorial at Pearl Harbor. There has never been a candidate not only less qualified to be president, but positively anathema to the office. He has done incalculable harm to our institutions, and we will be recovering for years. He has coarsened the public discourse and behaved as a playground bully.

In retrospect, I can see why you like him.

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Your list is full of lies, half truths, and malarkey. Kinda like listening to Trump brag about himself. In any event, who cares? The buffoon in the White House's utter failure to launch a national defense against Covid-19 based on science and reason, like pretty much the rest of the planet, has resulted in hundreds of thousands of dead Americans with the pandemic still raging out of control. 4th worst mass death event in US history. That ALONE makes him utterly unfit for office. No hatred at all, just the facts maam.

@Druvius Like the lies he utters on 60mins.

You have drank far to much of the liberal kool aid!

@Trajan61 That you think name calling is "debate" shows what a fantasy world you live in.

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Someone has been listening to fox too much most of that is untrue

bobwjr Level 10 Oct 24, 2020

You are so full of crap!

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Evidence or stfu

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The Nobel Committee doesn't award a Dumbbell Prize!

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@ArtemisDevine Amazing! Thank you! You've convinced me to change my vote! I'm going to vote for the buffoon! He deserves the Nobel Peace Prize! I'm going to copy and paste this and plaster it all over Facebook just like you should instead of pasting this stupid template on this site. You silly troll. Don't forget to go to church tomorrow and pray to your fictitious God.

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Uuuummmm, just no, and stop watching Faux!
Glaring examples, using actual Facts: That "peace accord" is smoke & mirrors, just like other presidents have found (Jimmy Carter, for example, who actually got a Peace Prize for it) and was obviously staged so he could mention (slam) Biden...how statesmanlike!
North Korea has the biggest stockpile of nukes in its entire history Right Now...if they are so "neutralized', why?
Illegal Immigration was at historic Lows BEFORE he took office. That ain't "rampant" by anyone's definition
I could easily refute All of your BS, with actual FACTS, but why bother, you are solid wood between the ears.

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It amazes me how many people are afflicted with TDS and that hatred dominates their lives. Hell Trump has done a lot for the country.

For someone who owns a cattle ranch, you sure do act much like a sheep...

There's no evidence of that because it's not true. And you don't get to just make up pretend mental illnesses, Einstein.

@LovinLarge What have the idiotic democrats done for the country?

@Trajan61 Yes, I understand your attempt to distract from the fact that your have failed to support your claims with evidence but that tactic isn't effective with anyone competent.

@Cutiebeauty You certainly seem to have a bad case of TDS!

@Trajan61 🐮 moo 🐮

Oh wait.. Baaaa... 😂

@Trajan61 Trump Derangement Syndrome is where you SUPPORT trump.

Don't bother arguing with Trajan, he's not credible at any level. His cows have more credibility.

@t1nick

Yes, @trajan61 is a total coward.

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I call BS

Leetx Level 7 Oct 24, 2020
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Lies, all lies...

Can you define what makes them lies? I’m betting that you can’t.

@CourtJester actually, I can but why waste my time on someone who will just deny it..?

@Cutiebeauty I’ll take that as a ‘No’. Thank you.

@CourtJester 😂 you just proved my point 😂😂😂

@Cutiebeauty you sound like a Christian with all of your supporting evidence

@CourtJester you proved my point again 😂😂 you're hilarious 😂 I refuse to engage so you fabricate and try to insult😂 going away little sheep... Follow the king of fools.. He's done for...

@Cutiebeauty Done for? Really? This is a fully booked Biden rally. Sounds like more faith than facts to me.

@Cutiebeauty Is he commenting on here? I blocked him a long time ago. Why waste your time? He's a racist goober from Alabama.

@CourtJester 😂😂😂 can't stay on topic, can you? The op is about the furher trump.. I know it's difficult for you to think for yourself.... I've ready told you, I won't engage in this discussion because you deny, fabricate, and try to insult and to top it off, you somehow think a picture is proof of anything... 😂😂😂

@barjoe yes, just some idiotic stuff... He's not a thinker...

@Cutiebeauty all I asked for was for you to define your position and you bailed, but you keep coming back to support your non-position

@CourtJester and all I did was say that it's useless to talk to a denying sheep... And you kept coming back 😂😂😂

@Cutiebeauty faith based arguments don’t go very far

@CourtJester i offered no argument ... 😂😂 you are really foolish...

@CourtJester They are lies because they are unsupported and unsupportable with evidence. Anyone can say anything but saying it doesn't make it true. Evidence is how we distinguish fact from fiction. Let's see the evidence that proves the factual claims made by the OP. She didn't provide it because it doesn't exist because her claims are false. Sit the fuck down.

@CourtJester Prove that your undated picture is a "fully booked (sic) Biden rally". And learn how to use the hyphen, you fraud.

@CourtJester or you could read some replies above, or watch some actual news, or Google some (any!) of your assertions...CutieBeauty doesn't need to reinvent the wheel just for you!

CourtJester <--- suffers from the Messiah complex. I would have more respect for him if he would just admit that he doesn't care if trump is a liar . blocked him long ago...@AnneWimsey

@LovinLarge so you’re saying that Trump did not crate peace accords in the Middle East? Or he did not reposition our embassy to Jerusalem? Is my proof photos of the signed documents supporting those actions? What lies are you referring to? Is there no longer the position of common knowledge?

I’m not saying you have to support the president. I’ve never met a liberal that was capable of simple deductive reasoning on their own. So I would never expect it unless your chosen circle told you to. Just support your stance. I’m going to giggle either way. I’m just waiting for at least one welfare hand-out bed wetter to explain their position with more than feelings and personal opinions Rachel Maddow told them to have. Just one.

@CourtJester The only stance I've taken is that factual claims require supporting evidence. This is the standard of proof accepted by all western countries. Giggle all you want, but the OP hasn't provided any evidence of her claims and you haven't provided any evidence to prove your picture is what you say it is. Not only are your claims unproven, you do so at the risk of your own credibility.

@LovinLarge Still just one

@CourtJester Facts do not involve feelings or personal opinions. Facts are established by evidence and neither you nor the OP has provided any. You made a factual claim about the circumstances under which a photograph was taken. Prove those circumstances are accurate or you are a liar

@CourtJester Here you go. To save @Cutiebeauty time debunking in detail, I'll just repeat my post from further up the line.

Anybody can be nominated for a Nobel by anybody who is eligible to make a nomination. Trump's nominations were courtesy of a far-right Norwegian politician and a Swedish parliamentarian. According to the Nobel Prize website, simply being nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize is “not an endorsement or extended honour to imply affiliation with the Nobel Peace Prize.” STALIN was nominated for a Nobel. It's actually winning one that matters.

ISIS was not "destroyed". The territory of the caliphate in Syria was finally reclaimed, little thanks to Trump, who decided without warning to pull out our troops as a favor to Turkey's PM Erdogan, leaving our Kurdish allies hanging and ready for the Turks to slaughter. But ISIS remains a threat. “Isis is about ideology, not fighters or territory. The group has already adapted to territorial defeat by returning to insurgency in areas with pre-existing sectarian fault-lines. It has gained renewed momentum in recent months across Iraq’s northern provinces using tactics it was always more comfortable with than holding territory. In areas freed from their terror, local sleeper cells have already reappeared to spread panic and fear.” [theguardian.com]

Job growth slowed in the first 3 years after Trump took office, compared to the last 3 years of President Obama's term. Unemployment went down in all groups, but still remained higher among Blacks, while average wages remained lower than among Whites.

deep, widespread, and long-standing corruption in the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, and the Democratic party

This doesn't even deserve to be addressed. It's "deep state" fiction and only a step away from Qanon conspiracy theories.

Trump and his supporters have a deep misunderstanding of NATO. The commitment to spend a certain percentage of GDP on defense is simply that- a commitment. It's not a case of paying rent to be in NATO. And the allies were already increasing spending during the Obama administration, in response to Russia's aggression in Chechnya. (Remember Russia? The nation that hacked the Democratic party's emails, used social media to influence the 2016 election, and is doing the same thing right now, by order of Trump's good friend Vladimir Putin?)

Trump failed to hold China to account for any of its human rights violations, the concentration camps for its own citizens, and suppression of Hong Kong; and when making a speech about an intellectual rights investigation, he removed every mention of China, the only nation being investigated, for fear of angering Xi and hurting a trade deal. The tariff war has been a failure, with the US actually subsidizing farmers for money they've lost to China's retaliatory tariffs. (And thanks for recycling the conspiracy theory that China somehow deliberately "caused" a global pandemic. Science disagrees, despite what the guests on Hannity say.)

NO president before Trump promised to move an embassy to Jerusalem, because it was considered a provocative move and counter to the goal of peace between Israel and the Palestinians. We placed our embassy in Tel Aviv because, until 2017, we never recognized Jerusalem as the capital.

The so-called jobs returning to the USA were about 145,000 over Trump's first 2 years, according to a non-profit think tank; less than 1 month of ordinary job growth. And foreign investment has gone down due to his tariff wars, reducing jobs for Americans.

You can't very well credit Trump with nominating his first Supreme Court Justice, considering Mitch McConnell held the seat open for 8 months during President Obama's term, claiming "the voters deserve to have a voice in who chooses the next Justice"- a position he has hypocritically reversed by ramming through another justice in the last 8 weeks of Trump's term. And she is certainly less than "well qualified" in the eyes of 100 former colleagues at Notre Dame, who published an open letter urging her rejection.

Claiming the military was "crippled" under President Obama is as ludicrous as the rest of these fictions. It is standard Republican propaganda, however.

How can you know if Trump has lost any money serving as President, considering he won't release his taxes? Indeed, our tax dollars are financing Trump businesses, as hundreds of millions are being pumped into Trump hotels and resorts every time he or his family travel to one of his own personally owned properties, forcing the Secret Service to rent rooms there at premium rates. He has the choice of providing these rooms for free; they belong to him. Recently, Trump had VP Pence stay at a Trump resort in Ireland- at public expense- for a diplomatic conference on the other side of the country. And then there are the foreign nations that have stayed at Trump hotels, at inflated rates, because they know it's a sure-fire way to curry favor with Trump.

I haven't even brought up the nepotism involved in appointing an utterly unqualified daughter and a son-in-law with massive foreign entanglements as senior White House advisors. Or taking said daughter on a diplomatic junket to China, where she acquired trademark rights worth millions, by virtue of being the President's daughter. (You know, China, the nation Trump was so tough on?)

@Paul4747 look! Actual factual Reasoning...wasted on CJ, for sure

@AnneWimsey Aw shucks. I just had to look most of it up for myself, instead of relying on a cut & paste post. Although some of it (like the Israeli embassy deal) is history knowledge.

thank you. I would also mention that trump "fixing" China has resulted in the largest trade deficit in 12 years.... trump supporters are SOOOOO easy... completely detached from reality. sad really @Paul4747

@Leetx Actually, I must correct you. While the trade deficit in goods and services overall has grown, specifically with China, it has gone down recently. Per the Washington Post Fact Checker website:

"At first the trade gap with China continued to go up, but that turned around in 2019, when the US-China trade gap went down 19% compared with the previous year. During the most recent 12 months on record (ending in July), the gap was 11.9% lower than the year before Trump took office, according to BEA’s figures."

It's not stunning, but it's a technical truth to say the deficit with China has gone down.

How much credit the President deserves is, of course, up for debate.

@CourtJester are you so dumb you do not realize these are the early-birds getting a good seat 7-8 hours before actual start time? Jeez Louise

the Washington post ? really ? check another source @Paul4747

@Leetx I see no need to double-check the Post fact checker. They have no axe to grind for or against Trump.

The trade deficit being down, means there is still a trade deficit, just a slightly lower one. While the overall trade deficit with all nations combined is up 21%.

@CourtJester

Peace accords generally don't last very long. Netanyahu is a corrupt politician just like Trump and bin Salman. Birds of a feather. Once these clowns become history, so will the peace deal. They entered because each of these individuals (notice I said individuals, not countries) stand to personally gain something or it would not have hapoened.

There are two types of doctors. Those that go into medicine to serve and heal people. And those that go into medicine to get rich and follow all policies and politicians that support this motivation. Patients are just a stepping stone to this goal. I suspect Jester is closer to the latter as opposed to the former

@t1nick I don't believe for a second that he's a doctor of anything.

@LovinLarge

He claims he just finished his residency and internship to become a pediatrician. Certified in NY, working in Alabama. Go figure.

@t1nick He established himself as a liar in this thread alone!

@LovinLarge

I concur. I have been engaging with him for three months. When he first came on, he came on with the announcement that he was three weeks away from completing his program. At the time there was no way to evaluate his truthfulness or shortsighted obstinacy.

We have had a couple of substantive arguments where we both presented academic based arguments. My concern with him is not his intellectual acumen, rather his morals and ethics. I do not see him using his knowledge in a way that benefits, but goes contrary to his hippocratic oath.

@t1nick I really like how much reasoned forethought you put into arriving at a conclusion and how well you are able to articulate it. I don't get to meet enough people who can do that. I get so tired of the nonsense.
It bodes well for this website to have you as a member. I would like to "follow" you so that I can see more of it.

@LovinLarge

Thank you for your comments. I would be honored if you followed and would enjoy any exchanges and interaction as we might have going forward.

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