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I came across this quote with different graphics on Facebook. I'm wondering how those of us here react to it.

My reaction is that it explains a lot of the nonsense we see from the Christian right who apparently are not thinking for themselves but following what others in leadership positions are telling them. Why else would they support a serial adulterer, business cheat and scammer, who can't sight a single verse from the Bible, and consider him their "chosen one"?

RussRAB 8 Nov 22
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That sentimrnt- believing in yourself is not from god- just highlights the dismissal of an individual. It's basically the other side of the coin for religious people who basically believe that they are broken and need their god to fix them.

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It does explain a lot of nonsense from the Christian right as they continue to make up and twist their doctrine.

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Just more self-rejecting nonsense from believers: "Oh No! ...the bogeyman wants you to accept and believe in yourself and not in our doctrine."

"Religion is not a matter of God, church, holy cause, etc. These are but accessories. The source of religious preoccupation is in the self, or rather the rejection of the self. Dedication in the obverse side of self-rejection. Man alone is a religious animal because, as Montaigne points out, it is a malady confined to man, and not seen in any other creature, to hate and despise ourselves." - Eric Hoffer

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Just believe in ourselves period. Religion tells us not to.

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So in other words we need someone else to tell us what to believe and how to behave? Basically, we have no mind and as such, cannot be judged because of our personal actions. Sort of like the Egyptian era where only the pharaoh and his family were immortal and all the lower people were just a means to those ends.

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I prefer this one. It's more meaningful

It makes more sense. 😉

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Their God is a Narcissistic, Genocidal sociopath who needs adoration and praising and is a celestial dictator. Don't you see the similarities in Trump.

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Except when satan is manifesting him/her/itself as Trump, it’s “me me me me me”?

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My spokeswoman.

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My actual bed spread. No I’m not a satanist I just like it 🙂

Mvtt Level 7 Nov 22, 2020

NICE!! Just the idea alone!!

Bringing the Devil in to your Bed. Now that sounds like a lot of fun

Aton would just love that!!!

Is that instructions for mate ration?

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In the Christianity in which I was raised, this would mean that the devil is clever. He doesn't come right out and show who he is. He is subtle. He tricks us. He lures us in by making us think we can believe in ourselves, think for ourselves.

And, belief in one's self goes against God. We are not supposed to think of the self, what we want, what we can do "for ourselves." We are supposed think only of God, what HE wants of us. We are to see ourselves as NOTHING without God. Our will must be totally turned over to this God.

And, of course, others, who are supposedly in the know about what this God wants, are the one's telling us what it wants of us. We are not supposed to decide that for ourselves.

Trump supporting Christians have been told that tRump was sent by their God to protect them and do God's will. They were convinced that their God was going to make sure Trump won a second term. Who are they to question what they are being told? And, how can they accept that Biden won when it goes against what their God supposedly ordained?

Which is why some xtion ministers rip on education because one needs to avoid all secular knowledge, especially that information that refutes the messaging (as they interpret it) and stories (their facts and truth) from the bibly.

@Beowulfsfriend Education was constantly ridiculed in my family---especially secular universities.

@Joanne recall my father complaining about the college kids coming into the NHL.

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It could be interpreted different ways. I don’t know Matt’s intentions.

skado Level 9 Nov 22, 2020
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To answer your implicit question: "What a pathetic twat!".

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When one looks at that from a different angle one can easily that it IS saying, " When one believes in oneself and knows their capabilities then one will usually try their best to exceed those capabilities, then if one ONLY believes exactly what they are told, then they will never strive to better themselves."
That, imo, is one of the many main-stays upon which religion thrives, i.e. " Think only as you ARE told by us, never ever think for or of yourself or your capabilities, NEVER strive to better yourself because YOU will become a perceived threat to OUR control over you."

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