I recognize within me the animal that is drawn to nature's cycles. I recognize my delight at pretty flowers, sparkly objects, fire, flowing water, and the natural world around me. That being said, I do not believe such things are paranormal, supernatural, or in some way, magical. I still howl at full moons, collect shiny rocks and fallen feathers, and fill my life with whimsy.
Have you found certain things like that in your own life that some would consider "spiritual" but really are just your acknowledgement of the base animal that you are?
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Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.Catholicism saddled me with a burden it called spiritual. I saw it as slavery and escaped.
I’m ok with being an animal drawn to narure’s cycles but I envy the far superior abilities of many non-human animals.
Btw, who in pluperfect hell stuck us with the tag “sapiens”? Its opposite would fit us better.
yvilletom
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Dec 12, 2020
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Perhaps it is due to our limited vocabulary, but there seem to be two distinct camps here regarding "spiritual" experience. Those who, much like Carl Sagan and Sam Harris, accept, if not embrace, the concept of godless spirituality, and those who think the whole notion is rubbish. Like you, I lean toward the former.
"Science is not only compatible with spirituality; it is a profound source of spirituality. ... The notion that science and spirituality are somehow mutually exclusive does a disservice to both."
Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted Word: Science as a Candle in the Dark
"Spirituality must be distinguished from religion—because people of every faith, and of none, have had the same sorts of spiritual experiences."
Sam Harris, Waking Up: A Guide to Spirituality Without Religion
p-nullifidian
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Dec 10, 2020
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There is nothing spiritual in appreciating art, or being moved by a song or in awe of a gorgeous natural spectacle, all very human traits; unlike many imbeciles in the world and many even in this group who label themselves in an endless variation of baseless absurd nomenclatures to justify their own insecurities ergo their belief in spirits or any other unproven and nonsensical bullcrap. And then pretend to be something they are not, just because their own warped mind needs the support and foundation of these moronic labels, used by them to justify their own imbecilic actions.
Mofo1953
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Dec 10, 2020
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I definitely know people who have traded one incomprehensible belief for another. It feels as though watching a mouse in a maze that almost makes it past all the traps to the end to only turn itself around and go back the way it came.
To be fair, though, when the brain has been repeatedly conditioned to believe nonsense, it seeks nonsense to feel comfort. It is a difficult labor to bring new thought patterns into being. To fall back into routine thinking makes a person merely human. And funnily enough, it's those with higher intelligence that often have the mental agility to perform the gymnastics necessary to juggle their cognitive dissidence.
If spirituality is an inherent aspect of human life then one would expect that such experiences are of common human experience. Just because they are common does not mean deeply reverent appreciation of something isn't touching a spiritual aspect. I think we all have a deeply ingrained character that we've lived with all our lives, watched develop, which can be called our spirit and which can be touched by soft echoes and beauty. This is all that's meant by the word spirituality.
Welcome aboard the Reality train.
We ARE nature, we ARE a part of Nature and Nature is a part of us and that is undeniable.
Imo, there is NOTHING so-called 'spiritual' to be found in Nature, we are linked to the Natural World whether we like it or not, that IS how we evolved.
I enjoy and take great pleasure growing plants, watering them, feeding them, etc, etc, and when I get the opportunity/opportunities I feel that by merely walking bare footed through a sandy creek I am re-establishing my personal links with Nature.
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