@powder Medicine STRIVES to Cure Diseases, etc, etc, IT works with the Patients it treats.
Economics, etc, are NOT a Holistic Approach to Diseases, they are, imo, the Catch Phrases of Governments who are ONLY concerned with things Fiscal in relation to the Fiscal Budgets of the Country they govern. In other words, " Can we make the National Budget read as being in the "Black," THEY, imo, ARE only concerned with Fiscal Balances and the Economy NOT the Peoples they were ELECTED to Govern and Care FOR in the First and Foremost place.
Then, imo, WE also have those whose ONLY concern seems to be " How can I get around to selling a property of MINE in another country/State and ensure that I make a profit from said Sale."
THIS SIR, IS A GLOBAL Pandemic and it is ONE we have NEVER before experienced on such a scale, ergo, to Treat in a 'Holistic Manner ' IT needs the ENTIRE Human Species to Co-operate completely and Totally as one with NO exceptions NOR exemptions.

@powder I think you ARE 'barking up the wrong tree' here in regards to my reply.
By no means was I suggesting you disregard, etc, etc, your children, etc, I was merely suggesting that ALL Humanity NEEDS to act as ONE in the Pandemic Crisis which are ALLinvolved in WITHOUT Exception or Exemption.

@powder It seems, imo, you are not quite up-to-date as per the recent 'Vaccination Rollout " in Australia which is, to best of my knowledge, has either begun already or DUE to start in March of this year.

@powder Good, BUT as usual we who dwell OUTSIDE of the 'Big Smoke Regions' are scheduled to get the 'Roll-Out" later than than everyone else so it appears.

@powder Apologise, a typo, now corrected.

The second part is not true...... It is already happening.

@JacarC Excuse me BUT, IF a Palestinian WORKS in Israel and PAYS taxes to Israel THEN he/she WILL be Vaccinated, BUT those who do NOT do so WILL be last on the Israeli Lists.
Hence, and imo, should this travesty continue, then BOTH Israel and Egypt SHOULD be Charged with Crimes Against Humanity in the
The Israel/Egyptian Blockages STILL stand firm and solid even in these Pandemic times, thus severely limiting/curtailing the availability of C-19 Vaccines to the WHOLE Palestinian Populace.
Then, imo, SHOULD this Israeli-Egyptian Travesty continue on then BOTH countries MUST be Charged with Crimes Against Humanity in the Universal Courts of Justice in the Hague IMMEDIATELY.

I think you WILL find, sadly and unfortunately, that this "Herd Immunity" is little more than either a Myth or wishful thinking.

@Triphid What information do you have that contradicts the consensus held by the NIH, CDC, Mayo Clinic and infectious disease experts, worldwide?

@p-nullifidian Well now since humans are animals when it is all boiled down to the basics it IS only logical that this so-called "Herd Immunity" cannot be attained just as for example Drenching Livestock against worm infestations, etc, MUST be repeated over and over EVERY YEAR as each new generation is born and that is just for starters.
Plus, as we have already seen very plainly C-19 is mutating into newer variants ergo the Immunity to Variant 1 may quite well be useless/invalid to Variants 2, 3, 4, etc, etc.

@Triphid Most sources I've read indicate that vaccine-based herd immunity [some prefer 'community immunity'] is possible for COVID 19 when/if between 75-85% of the population has been vaccinated. This number is of course an estimate, but is based on the contagiousness of this virus. Measles is much more contagious so 95% of the community should be vaccinated, according to the CDC. Like measles, a strict and continuous effort may be needed to prevent the re-occurence of outbreaks. I didn't mean to imply that herd immunity won't require future vaccinations or booster shots.

At current rates it could take years for the US to reach 85% against the SAR-CoV-2, which is mutating, as you've said. Presently, while there's evidence to suggest the current vaccines may be less effective against the new strains of the virus, there doesn't appear to be enough evidence to say that a heightened immune system, as a result of the vaccine, won't respond to the variants.
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@p-nullifidian 1) to achieve this so-called Herd/Community Immunity then 100% of the Herd/Community needs to vaccinated, which also means that NO other NON Original Herd/Community members can be accepted/enter into that Herd/Community period,
2) Vaccinations, although causing the Immune System to create Antibodies to the specific Infective Agent, need regular Booster Vaccinations to REMAIN Effective, i.e. Tetanus is one example in that it requires a Booster Vaccination every 5 years.

@powder Yep, that is how I am using it.

The United States shortage can be correctly linked to the refusal to look at the AstraZeneca vaccine. It would instantly solve the supply problem.

@barjoe Isn't that the opposite of what the OP was saying?

@JeffMurray Yep. It got approved in Australia. Lot of bad press on AZOx vax. 30 million jabs, being used in 40 countries. 100% effective against death from Covid. USA and Canada are banning it. $$$ Oxford vaccine is a non profit effort.

That is absolutely untrue. Humans have used a holistic approach to health successfully for our entire career on this planet. You may be confusing holistic with homeopathy. In my view it is conventional healthcare that has gone off the rails. Holistic healthcare deals with maintaining the entire body and taking preventative measures in prophylaxis, rather than the 'modern' method of taking a pharmaceutical treatment for a symptom.

@BDair So if I get cancer, I'm going to see an oncologist not some witchdoctor. Yeah homeopathy won't cure anything. Holistic is a waste of time, curses hypochondria. Once the doctor realizes the patient is really sick, he prescribes real meds.

If you had said "homeopathic 'medicine' is no better than prayer," I would agree.

Holistic medicine though, as I understand it (and someone please do correct me if I'm mistaken,) is more like a "whole person" approach. Like, if you have a stomach ache, the doctor doesn't just prescribe an antacid - she also asks about your diet, and maybe about your physical activity. If she's REALLY into the holistic thing, she may even ask about current psychological stressors that may be contributing to your stomach ache.

I'm of two minds on the question, personally. On the one hand, I realize that health problems may have multiple causes. On the other hand, I don't much like doctors gettin' all up in my business.

@barjoe Conventional cancer treatments kill more people than they save. But a holistic approach to well being can prevent you from getting cancer in the first place.