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If you are born in Iran,then you most likely will be a Shiite Muslim. If you are born in India, then you most likely will be a Hindu. If you are born in Utah,then you may very well be a Mormon. In the deep South, you will probably be a fundamentalist Christian or at least feel guilty for fucking in the back seat of a car as a teen. The point is that the author of the Bible who is "not the author of confusion " has made little effort to clarify things for the masses of the world.

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If we can pretend for a moment that there is a Christian God, who some 2000 years ago got a teenage Jewish girl pregnant with HIS only son, somewhere in Palastine. Who then went on to have a mediocre career in carpentry before wandering around spreading the word about his invisible dad, then you have a very valid point.
After all, why didn't God send lots of sons around the world all at the same time to spread the word about the talking snake and so on.
If this Iezues fellow is living today, then why doesn't he come out and say what is the right way to worship?
Some how, I think it's all just bollocks and organised religion is just the opium of the masses.

Sofabeast Level 7 Apr 15, 2018

All religions started out as regional concepts, and many remain so today. The advent of free and easy movement of tribes and races caused me religions to spread ever wider, causing wars about land and between cultures.

VAL3941 Level 8 Apr 15, 2018

Here is a question I pose to theists of any stripe and any denomination. I'll use Catholicism in this example.
You maintain that you are Catholic and believe completely in the Catholic Church as the one true church.
If you were born in a Jehovah's Witness house hold, all your family members were Jehovah's Witness, you were totally indoctrinated in the Jehovah's Witness dogma, you never heard anything about any other dogma or denomination, you spent your entire life under the influence of the Jehovah's Witness dogma, do you think you would be a Catholic right now or a Jehovah's Witness?
Hopefully it might get them to thinking as to why and what they believe.

jlynn37 Level 8 Apr 15, 2018

I've seen Richard Dawkins discuss this subject. He likes to say that a person's religion is an accident of birth. One of his pet peeves is when a child is described as a Jewish child or a Mormon child or a Christian child, etc. The kid was not born with those beliefs, he/she was indoctrinated. I was brought up in a very fundamentalist church, and I was most certainly indoctrinated. All my family was from Kentucky and had that old time religion. Even though it all seemed a little crazy from an early age, it was hard to shake off. It took me years to "come out of the closet" as an agnostic at first, and then an atheist. I am often cynical now about True Believers, and how they can ignore the contradictions. But I also know that indoctrination by the people you love can be very powerful. This is one of the many reasons people believe weird things.

ITComic Level 4 June 13, 2018

Greatest piece of fiction ever written.

sassygirl3869 Level 9 Apr 15, 2018

It is a good thing that peoples' parents, parents, parents, parents, parents, ect...chose the right god! Otherwise, they would be fucked and going to hell with us Nons!

RizzoJenkins Level 4 Apr 15, 2018

Did not know therd was a right gid.

@VAL3941 Depends on what their parents told them.


At least if you are born into a Christian family you can leave without being condemned to death. What a benevolent god some religions have...

ITguy64 Level 5 Apr 15, 2018

Depends on the Christians.


im not sure i understand your point. for one thing the bible had many authors and was rewritten so it would be reasonable to assume that it would eventually be less than clear on some things. and at least 2 of the groups you mentioned don't even use the bible, they have their own books, so i think it would be difficult for the author/s of the bible to clarify much of anything for those folks that don't read it or follow its beliefs. also, i think at the time these books where written, they did at least attempt to clarify things, but they had so little knowledge back then that some things were misinterpreted. they each came up with their own stories to explain why things happened. natural disasters, plagues, starvation, rape, murder. they just wanted to try to make sense of these things. the thing is tho, people tend to get very attached to their beliefs. now that we have science to explain a lot of these things, some of us look to that for our answers, but some folks are just set in their ways.

Byrd Level 7 Apr 15, 2018

I don't think there was just one author, because it is not clear. One author would have doen better to claifiy.
The groupsing of various religions based on where you live is human nature - we're herd animals and tned to congregate with our own kind.
the major cities that were first settled had there germantowns, south phillies (Italian), Harlem in New York.
I guess we can be glad it's not as bad as the fight between the sunni and shiite.
So trump is heeler herding his base and the rest of us can't believe and are really tired of the chaos.

silverotter11 Level 8 Apr 15, 2018

So True, you don't choose to accept the normality of a particular religion, you are simply born into it. This fact alone should make any normally intelligent person realise that there is a thousand reasons to indicate that they can't all be right and that all religions must be fraudulent.

madmac Level 6 Apr 15, 2018

It shows just how few of these people who claim they've searched so hard for truth have actually done any real searching at all.

David_Cooper Level 6 Apr 15, 2018

Some people have the audacity to be born non white and poor! What the hell were they thinking.

Stevil Level 8 Apr 15, 2018

It is up to each of us to unlearn what has been taught. To learn we are all on our own journey and take a positive roll in this world, because it may be all there is, takes time. How to have compassion for those who never question but follow as if they are roped together through their Sunday brainwashing. The mob mentality rules in most churches. I think the bible can be used for anything the mob boss wants. No one is going to question the good book.

Lljatforty Level 4 Apr 15, 2018

Also your assumption about Indians mostly being hindu is incorrect. South India has a lot of Muslims. You're also forgetting Sikh, Jains and quite a few others.

jperlow Level 7 Apr 15, 2018

There is no one author of the Bible. And at least in terms of the new testament there are multiple revisions and omitted chapters.

jperlow Level 7 Apr 15, 2018

Actually 1/2 the population is Zororastrian in Iran...and India has a large population of Catholics, then Muslim...Utah also has a largish population of christians and other religions.

Charlene Level 8 Apr 15, 2018

Fallen Mormon, agnostic here...born in Idaho and raised in Provo, Utah. Would have been voted most-likely to not be agnostic!

LuckyLake Level 2 Apr 16, 2018

Fallen Mormon, agnostic here...born in Idaho and raised in Provo, Utah. Would have been voted most-likely to not be agnostic!

LuckyLake Level 2 Apr 16, 2018

Okay, I need to clarify this. Yes I know that there are many authors of the Bible. I only referred toe god being the one author, since fundamentalist Christians claim god inspired the whole Bible. The point that I was making is that if really was a true god who loved us as the Christians say, we wouldn't have this mass confusion. I was also insinuating that all religions seem to be a cultural and man made tool. Where you are born means a different belief system, which is what one finds in a world of man made, not god influenced ,beliefs.

Dogpound9 Level 6 Apr 16, 2018

Ah yes, the old "Go along to get along" syndrome.

nvrnuff Level 8 Apr 15, 2018

Right...religious choice is closely aligned with geography.

nicknotes Level 7 Apr 15, 2018
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