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So, I joined Humanist.com less than two weeks ago. So far, I've learnt that this site shares the same database with Agnostic.com. and that if I prefer, I can change the settings so that the members on Agnostic.com cannot see my posts and comments. I'm thinking about it because... I notice that some regular contributors on Agnostic.com hate theists with passion (lol). They readily make derogatory if not hateful comments about theists. I was brought up by agnostic parents in a secular environment but I hold no hostility towards theists. Are those who appear hostile towards theists from troubled backgrounds or something, so much so that they cannot contain their hatred and contempt for theists? I guess I'm trying to find people who I can interact with pleasantly. Cheers.

Ryo1 8 Apr 19
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I've said many times before here, and some have admitted it, many people on this site are just mad at god/religion for however it let them down or hurt them. Consequently it's understandable that they might also hate people who believed as they used to...or it was believers that hurt them. Either way you get to block people you don't want to hear from but I think you should understand where some of them are coming from.

lerlo Level 8 Apr 22, 2021
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I do not hate religious people. I just feel that they have very flawed logic which tells me they are not credible. What is the problem here? They are unable to admit that they do not know something. The plan for everything is in their bible, but nobody knows the will of god. You must be holy and beg and plead with him.

Hi there. Who are "they" you talk of? ALL religious believers? I'm not a great fan of generalisation and stereotyping. No matter who they are, if they don't bother me, I don't bother them; I don' feel the need to challenge them. "Whatever you believe is none of my business" is my basic attitude. But then, since you live in America (I live in England) and Christianity seems to have strong influence on American politics, I can understand why atheists must fight for a secular society.

@Ryo1 "They" can be anyone but in my take on this it is religious believers.

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Please don't confuse strong condemnation of religion -- well justified -- with hatred towards religious people. A lot of us fall in the first category. Doesn't mean we fall into the second.

Forgot to add that this 'let's be nice and polite to religions' attitude is exactly the cover they have used to avoid scrutiny of their hideous activities that have been revealed over recent decades when criticising and exposing religions has become acceptable. Believe me I'm old enough to remember when no one who ever criticise religion because it just wasn't the done thing. We atheists have changed that, and good!

Hi there. "Please don't confuse strong condemnation of religion -- well justified -- with hatred towards religious people. A lot of us fall in the first category. Doesn't mean we fall into the second." Those who talk of believers in a childish manner, including calling them names, are the ones I could do without.

@Ryo1 It is certainly reasonable to highlight specific religious people who are appalling, engage in unacceptable behavior, hold regressive views, or are just phonies or fraudsters -- like evangelist preachers -- on an individual basis. In our lives if we come across people like this, we can hold critical views. If you are suggesting that we should not condemn religious people generally, as by a group condemnation, then I agree.

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I don’t think your perception is the reality. I’ve never witnessed hatred toward people on this site and I’m on it daily.
I’ve seen attacks on bad ideas, which is commendable.
I’ve seen and been subjected to prejudice by some left extremists, however. But that, in my view, is their ignorance, not actual hatred.
I think your response in the end, is what matters.

Mvtt Level 7 Apr 19, 2021
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Welcome, I'll lift a pint cheers. 😉

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Welcome aboard!

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People get to make their own decisions about how they use this platform within the confines of the rules. The way you want to use it does not supercede the choices of others and the "troubled backgrounds" shot was a low blow. No one is obligated to interact with you pleasantly so please feel free to ride off into the sunset on your rose colored unicorn.

Afflicted with chronic rudeness.

@PBuck0145 Even if that were true, rudeness is still superior to conservatism, you disgusting racist.

@LovinLarge

@PBuck0145 Anyone who has read many of your posts knows that racism is your true opposition to Islam.

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Guilty as charged.

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Are you not possibly confusing attacks on religion with attacks on followers of religion ?. There is a big difference.

I don't think so.

@Ryo1 I don't see what you describe but if it is attacks on the church leaders who deny the dangers of Covid 19 and the prosperity gospel purveyors who fleece their followers they deserve everything they get and more.

@Moravian How about atheists calling their theist neighbours and co-workers derogatory names? That's what I saw on Agnostic.com a few times. That's just inane.

@Ryo1 I haven't seen this so please copy some of those comments so that we can all see them

@Moravian Name and shame? I never do that, mate.

@Ryo1 So it's all in your mind then ?.

@Moravian Am I a liar or a schizo, now? Lol

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Welcome to the asylum. Enjoy your stay.

I'm one of the members who have no use for theists.

I used to believe in the whole "live and let live" thing. I didn't care what anyone believed, as long as they didn't try to force anyone else to live the way they thought they should.
Unfortunately, that is no longer a viable option.

Far too many believers think they have the right to dictate the behavior of others.
Far too many more go along with that.

The influence of theists have on public policy is beyond the pale, and I can't abide it.
Too many believers have influenced public policy to the point where they are openly causing harm to those they feel are less-than themselves.

Their incessant and deliberate intrusions into the private lives of citizens is unacceptable. It has become such a problem that laws have had to be enacted to protect against their interference.

I find their beliefs and behavior worthy of ridicule and derision. I refuse to hide it.

If my responses to them are unpleasant to you or anyone else, block me.

Attempting to psychoanalyze anyone's animus in a public forum is a waste of time, and quite unlikely to produce satisfactory results.
If you really want to know why someone seems "hateful" towards theists, ask them directly.
Everyone has different reasons for feeling however they do.
There are no blanket explanations that would cover the question.

Hi there. Thanks. If you are an atheist living in America, I imagine that you may have hard times with theists, especially evangelists. I live in England. I cannot speak for the entire nation, but at least in my neighbourhood, everybody gets on well with each other, believers and non-believers alike. I don't think British society is as polarised as American society.

@Ryo1 I get along with just about everyone I come into contact with. I think most of us do.
This country (the US) is every bit as divided as we've ever been.

Contrary to what many may think, this nation has always been divided by many issues.
I think it just seems more polarized because we all have access to more platforms than ever before.

Divisions have always existed. Everywhere.
Even when it seems like we come together over catastrophic events, it never lasts.

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Welcome and feel free to block the idiots

bobwjr Level 10 Apr 19, 2021
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Someone bothering or harassing you? Block them. Problem solved.

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I really have almost no friends that are believers, and even with them, religion is a non-issue. It also almost never comes up in my very limited small talk with neighbors. So I really don't care about believers in general or what they think. Only when it gets into the level of government and society where they try to impose their religion on us. Then it matters to me, but I couldn't care less what they believe or do in their private lives.

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I'm on agnostic.com. When I first joined this site in 2017 people were more accepting of religious people on here, while I was inactive for awhile the atmosphere changed drastically. People on here enjoy their safe space, get offended easily and block people with opposing views daily. I for one questioned my beliefs heavily when I first delved into atheist content on the internet. (Years ago when I was a believer) Some of the people on here probly would have pushed me further into religion rather than provoke my thoughts. I definitely see where you're coming from.

Tejas Level 8 Apr 19, 2021
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Some people need that outlet to not feel alone because they were surrounded by it for a long part of their life and still have trauma or mental anguish from living the way they were taught to do so long. I don't feel it's too hard to talk to these folks and help them through it or just ignore it.

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Lol troubled backgrounds.

Hi there. @thyperson clarified for me that some are from troubled backgrounds indeed.

@Ryo1 whatever lol. You're obviously a live and let live whatever. I'm tired of the trash destroying my once superpower nation.

@redhog I sympathise (not in a condescending way).

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Even as an atheist, I can get along with all the major religions, except for Islam, which is actually a cruel, imperialist political ideology.
My opposition to the ideology does NOT imply hatred for Muslims, who are deceived, oppressed and enslaved by their indoctrination. They need to be helped and encouraged to apostatize, freeing themselves and humanity from the scourge of Islam.

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A few of my friends are religious. I don't care

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