Should we dance on the graves of black people who died from COVID? If not, why is it socially acceptable to celebrate the deaths of Republicans?
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Republicans are flying black flags now, yet they still claim to be victims. Go figure. [upworthy.com]
Druvius
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Oct 17, 2021
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It depends upon the Republican who died. I'm sure many would have danced on Trump 's grave if he had died from the disease he had called a hoax.
nogod4me
Level 8
Oct 16, 2021
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That would have been really funny, but I'd dance on that motherfucker's grave no matter what he died of.
Anytime you try to compare a modifiable trait to a non-modifiable trait, you're setting yourself up for failure.
Being a Republican is part of the root cause of the problem whereas being black isn't (even if there's some correlation). Of course, if you don't even understand a principle as basic as 'correlation is not causation', you need much more help than I'm willing to provide.
ChestRockfield
Level 8
Oct 16, 2021
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@TheInterlooper Yes you did, you said "black people" not "anti-vaxxers who happen to be black". Your grown-up ass isn't smart enough to know the difference between those?
@TheInterlooper Even if everyone knew you were horribly imprecise with your words AND we all assumed you meant "anti-vaxxers who happened to be black" it still doesn't change the other important factors at play here which @Gwendolyn2018 did an excellent job of detailing for us.
(Excluding the wackadoo outliers) Will add that black people receive poor quality medical care and treatment compared to their counterparts, even if their coverage is the same as the general population. Doctors were taught that black people experience less pain and therefore drug seek, they're underrepresented in clinical data, and are more often left to live with untreated but treatable diseases for decades because of this. So their fear is two-fold: That the vaccine was not designed with their clinical data in mind, and that if they have adverse reactions, they'll receive inadequate help. All of it, historical precedence. Won't comment on the other side. If someone dies as a direct result of the deliberate choices they make with full knowledge of risk, they died on their own terms. No matter who they are.
summatyme
Level 7
Oct 16, 2021
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There is alot of bs in this comment. Too much to argue.
Those that celebrate the deaths of Republicans understand that their anti-vaccine stance comes from political obstruction along with some Christian hatred of science. Black vaccine hesitance derives from centuries of using Blacks as unknowing medical subjects in unethical research. Motive, intent, and sincerity count.
racocn8
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Oct 16, 2021
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@TheIntelooper
"Attitudinal studies suggest that mistrust of clinical investigators is strongly influenced by sustained racial disparities in health, limited access to health care, and negative encounters with health care providers." ... "Ethnic minority patients receive less information, empathy, and attention from their physicians regarding their medical care than their White counterparts."
"Medical Apartheid: The Dark History of Medical Experimentation on Black Americans From Colonial Times to the Present. The book cites instances from throughout US history where medical schools disproportionately used African Americans in clinical trials and live surgical demonstrations. "
John Quier’s experiments with smallpox inoculation in a population of 850 slaves.
The book, Medical Apartheid: The Dark History of Medical Experimentation on Black Americans from Colonial Times to the Present," contains some really horrific experiments, such as "putting several Blacks into a hole and then pouring boiling hot water down on them to 'learn how fast it took for their skin to peel.'". Some enslaved people were hired out to medical facilities for experiments like amputations. A healthy person would leave the plantation in the morning and return in the evening with an arm or leg cut off….just to teach medical interns how to do such surgeries."
Well said. That means blacks' hesitancy is more understandable, so they deserve more sympathy.
BUT at some point, after they've had time to look into it, that excuse loses it's potency. Still there, maybe, but weaker.
@Storm1752 Yes, but the OP is trying to make it sound like "black people" is synonymous with "anti-vaxxer" the same way "Republican" is, which is completely baseless. Only 56% of Republicans have had at least one dose of the vaccine (but all support people who are actively anti-vax), whereas 90% of Democrats have. Compare that to African-Americans making up 11% of the vaccinations and 12% of the population and "whites" making up 60% of vaccinations and 61% of the population.
Basically, what he's insinuating is compete bullshit...
Let's see your evidence that it is socially accepted that COVID deaths of Republicans are being celebrated.
LovinLarge
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Oct 16, 2021
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@TheInterlooper "Sorry, this post is not available."
@TheInterlooper Done. Are you referring to his post or the whole thread?
@TheInterlooper Unfortunately memes don't usually give citations for their factual claims but NDT is generally a reliable source.
The reactions in that thread come from individuals not from a group so this claim is entirely unsubstantiated.
I don't see any celebrations occurring in that thread and you can't use anything on this site to determine what is socially acceptable because the very premise of this website is socially unacceptable.
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