Those who know me know how passionate I am about the Death with Dignity program (now in 11 states). One problem I have in any consideration of re-location is, would the place have the death with dignity program. After my late partner’s use of this program it has become very important to me. [replica.seattletimes.com]
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Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.the link i wrote about in my comment below has somehow changed from the BLM propaganda i speak of, to an obituary for a Seatle artist. i have enough personal problems without having to ad delusional paranoia to the list of psychopathhological diagnoses i'm already accused of here. so heres the link i got
holdenc98
Level 7
Oct 17, 2021
1
Thank you.
Reading the link citation of blatent BLM toady agitprop you submit here, it seems that even a fine group like Death with Dignity's own bureaucratic alpha dominated conformist leadership elite (and show me a public organization anywhere that isn't so dominated) now has to swim with all the other fishes and take a public loyalty oath to Black Lives Matter. On pain of what occult penalty if they didn't? Or is there some obvious connection between these completely unconnected causes that escapes me? The cause of death with dignity is surely the most important public cause there is, bar none, and one of the most poorly supported in relation to it's importance. But the 800 pound gorilla in this posting, taboo to speak of, obviously, is that America has suddenly become just like China in 1967. Corporations, public interest groups, self appointed "youth" leaders everywhere, worldwide, are bending over backwards to kiss BLM ass. Its actually the first effective world wide mass thought control, with makes it a terrifying landmark in the history of our species. Its analogous to publicly waiving a demanded loyalty, like Chinese communist super alpha youth groups did throughout China from roughly 1967 till the rise of Deng Xiaoping. For those of you who don't recall, that Chinese nightmare was called the "Great peoples Cultural Revolution". Literally all Chinese youth ran around the streets in mobs, waiving a Little Red Book. The quotations of Mao. Professors were fired, public loyalty oaths were demanded....sound familiar?
holdenc98
Level 7
Oct 17, 2021
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This is something my Dad would have been so pleased to have had available when he was more than ready to pass.
I'd be signed up in a NY minute if I had something terminal.
silverotter11
Level 9
Oct 17, 2021
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There is also the "Final Exit" idea. JFC, when looking this up the first item was from Amazon selling the Final Exit book. More and more ways to make money.
[finalexitnetwork.org]
You do have something terminal. We all do.
@Casey07 True no one gets out alive. 
After being beside the hospital bed of my 16 year old daughter for the 10 + months of Chemotherapy 24/7 and then a few short months of us both being back at home then back at her hospital bedside for the last days of her short life and seeing what she went though in those last days PLUS what I saw numerous others go through when I was a nurse I can whole-heatedly agree with the idea of Death with Dignity.
We TOLD to think we are being so kind, good and compassionate BECAUSE we REFUSE to see a beloved pet die in agony, etc, BUT, because of some ridiculous, arcane, out-dated religious dogma we MUST sit back and watch as our beloved friends or family members die WITHOUT any Dignity at all, they must suffer, and they do even if we cannot see it for ourselves.
Triphid
Level 9
Oct 17, 2021
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I'm all for Dr. Death. Just not for the covid vaccines type.
Castlepaloma
Level 8
Oct 17, 2021
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Then Mr. Covid is waiting for you.
Mr. covid prefers vaxxers.
Tell that to Joe Biden who says the vaccines are 100% safe. Then lies again saying 99% covid deaths are unvaccinated.
Then a Nation of.vaxxers sheelp walk off and discriminate all others who don't follow blindly like them. It has to be like a drug or worst than a Religion, except more lame. Plus name calling they wouldn't dare say to my face, my circle would be all over them.
JESUS H CHRIST. Wake up would you.
Vaxxers got a few years yet to wake up. I've have been prepareing for this from ten years old. Politics and religion change nothing. Only the 80% collective consciousness of the people change things. Like in this planedemic were great abuse forces people to change it, same for all other abuses throughout human history.
@Castlepaloma ........ lets not fight about this. let us all, both friends and other friends, see the movie CONTAGION, understand in our bellies that issues of pandemic mass death supersede "fife and drum" dated nonsense from 1776, and then lets all get vaccinated and live happily ever after. till the next decade when we finish off the biosphere.
unkle remus
I may start swimming to Hawaii. From California. Not at all passionately. LOL
yvilletom
Level 8
Oct 17, 2021
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So maybe the sharks will honor your death with (their) dignity.
I believe in death with dignity but this is hard to find. When it exists we have created it, and this would be very important. At least one person at the funeral home going to do my cremation claims he cannot buy it because he believes in "death with dignity." His version involves the invisible man.
DenoPenno
Level 9
Oct 17, 2021
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My late partner opted for a willed body plan. Her body was taken to the University of Washington medical for research. A few months later I received her ashes. I have also enrolled in the plan. It is overall.
It's only religion that makes people against mercy for suffering human beings but think it's OK for a pet....
JonnaBononna
Level 7
Oct 17, 2021
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Of course the usual hypocrisy. See my comment to JeffMurray
I attended a progressive graduate school of psychology.
One of their specialized programs was on how to assist dying individuals and their families to make a meaningful transition with death. That can be amazingly beautiful.
AnonySchmoose
Level 8
Oct 17, 2021
1
It can be but there is one hang-up - studies have shown some 70% of relatives talk the dying person out of this option because they want them to hang around a bit. I just watched an episode of "Chicago Hospital" on Netflix. A woman came in with her husband and daughter. She had non-hotchkins Lymphoma and had gone through all the tests and wrote a do not resuscitate order then she had a heart attack and passed out. The doctor went against protocol and revived her. Something similar happened to a friend whose husband had long term Parkinson's. He ruptured his bowel and it got infected and was helicoptered (we're on an island) to a Catholic hospital. They operated on him and gave him meds to induce a coma. They were going to do more surgery and he was to get a colostomy bag (with Parkinson's). She arrived and had to get a lawyer to get them to honor the do not resuscitate order. She was pissed. He slowly went downhill and died 5 days later.
@JackPedigo
Combined palliative care and grief counseling for dying people and their loved ones can improve quality of life for the patient far more than hospitalization. The professionals who do such work need to be quite skilled in compassionate care which involves respect for the patient's wishes. How good that more and more states allow assisted suicide, and that care-giver counselors are involved in that.
@JackPedigo My mother did that to my Dad. He signed the paperwork and she did not give it to the doctor. When he woke in the ICU all plugged in and IVed he was soooooooo angry it was very hard to see. I could feel his nger and dispare. Made me very very sad.
@silverotter11 Obviously a weak link in the chain. A lot of her getting her desired end was on my shoulders. Some funny episodes happened and one actually hastened her death by a couple of hours. When the meds were delivered she had gone into a coma and died several hours later. The meds were donated back into the system.
@silverotter11, @AnonySchmoose Strangly (and what seems normal for this place) two doctors associated with the program appeared and helped. One helped write the bill (was a part-time resident) and one was an anesthesiologist who reformulated the medication. She was a permanent resident who also acted as a consulting physician for more conservative parts of the state that didn't believe in the program. She spent a lot of time with us telling stories. After she died I was offered counseling from both hospice here on island and on the mainland.
@JackPedigo
Storytelling can be very compassionate.
It encourages the dying and their loved ones to share and enjoy wonderful memories.
It's insane to me that, for SO MANY REASONS, we don't assist suicide everywhere.
ChestRockfield
Level 8
Oct 17, 2021
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I totally agree. Problem is there's money to be made in people's suffering. Not to mention the religious zealots who on the one hand say it goes against 'god's' will but, on the other hand will avail themselves of the most up-to-date technology to keep them alive. I once wrote a paper on this and mentioned the religious say they can't wait to meet Jesus, but not just yet.
@JackPedigo Insurance companies seem pretty powerful, and it seems like they could save a ton of money on treatments and meds if their customers died before getting too far along in the actively dying process...
@JeffMurray Here is a link which accompanied a letter I wrote which got printed in all three of our local papers. Healthcare givers are the ones making money. With the state of healthcare in the US today hospitals are looking for any sort of income. I have an excellent healthcare plan. As such doctors are always looking for a reason to give me some sort of test.
[npr.org]
@JackPedigo I'm a nurse. I see that shit constantly. At least a couple times a week I say (under my breath or to one of the coworkers I trust) "Why the fuck are we doing a biopsy on this patient? They're X years old, bed bound, and can't even consent for themselves; what are they going to do, get chemo and surgery?"
@JeffMurray The letter to the editor I posted earlier had a patient. It seemed the staff went through extraordinary measures for this person who was clearly on the way out.
It is a program to aid those who are suffering and dying from a terminal disease. It is now legal in 11 states, Oregon was the first and Washing was soon to follow. It is now legal in Canada as well. I have posted about some of the unbelievable stories we experienced on our little island through this program. my late partner opted for this the second she was given the diagnosis of a terminal brain tumor. More and more states (those that tend toward compassion) are opting for this program. The next step should be a euthanasia program like practiced in the Netherlands and Switzerland. Here is a link: [deathwithdignity.org]
JackPedigo
Level 9
Oct 17, 2021
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I didn't know it was in 11 states. My plan is to relocate to OR should such a diagnosis occur but I'd like options (even though I'd be leaving).
rainmanjr
Level 8
Oct 17, 2021
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Here is a list of the states. Look at Montana it is a bit different. Also, it is legal in Canada. [deathwithdignity.org]
@JackPedigo WA and HI look like great options (depending on time of year).
@rainmanjr The climate in Hawaii might be better to your liking.
@JackPedigo I've got dear friends in WA and I won't be hanging out long.
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