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This is not about music or religion. This is about this old woman learning something. Yesterday was the day contractors from the OASIS program came to my house to make it safer and easier for me to live in. I do not know what OASIS stands for, but it is a program run by Wayne County Action Program, one of my former employers. The two main players were a young man and his female partner. They set right to work on the kitchen entrance, where I now have a second rail on the left side of the steps. All the steps also have safety strips on them. Now there is no reason for me to fall in the wintertime. I am not going to bore you with the rest of the improvements, all designed to make me feel safer and keep me out of the nursing home. What I wanted to share with you is what Rob, the very talented contractor said to me halfway through the day. He said: " you have a lot of stuff".
That struck me as truth and an insult. Yes, I have a lot of stuff. I have lived on several continents, with several people, done several jobs, and studied at several schools, should I not have many things? I have thought about "my things" now for many hours. Should I get rid of stuff? Who would want it? My family does not value most of it. What do you do with the stuff? Any ideas are welcome.

Spinliesel 9 Aug 21
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I once spent time with a co-worker friend who loved to go to estate sales. The sales were often about people who were basically hoarders who, because the items had meaning for them thought this would naturally apply to their children, it did not. Instead of going through all of the parents 'stuff' they would hire an agent. Many times we would go through very personal stuff looking for a bargain. I have found a person's insides (well being and sense of organization) can be determined by their surroundings. To me memories are mental and one shouldn't depend on outside stuff to bring back pleasant memories. Maybe make a project of photographing important things and downloading them to a memory device and the computer.

Ah yes, that's what I did when I had to get rid of all my favorite things in Washington while moving to Hawaii. I took photos of my furniture even, since I loved it! Made it easier to get rid of things and let someone else enjoy them. Such solid good stuff, but it was time to make new memories with less and different stuff.

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Are you bothered by the hoard of life's treasures that you have?
Do you look at things and do they bring back memories and feelings of joy?

If there is anything someone in the family values then feel free to allocate it to them or give it to them.
If someone comes in and says you have a lot of stuff tell them you are a dragon and all dragons have a hoard of treasures that reflect their life. Your life has been full, and fun, and you feel free to remember it in any fashion you like.

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I also have too much stuff, and recently had to clear a lot of it away since I have family visiting me this month. I am storing most of it until I have more time to figure out what to do with things that I likely would never use again, and the clutter takes away from the enjoyment of my space.

I was surprised to see an ad around that time for an enterprising person who offers to try to find a buyer for things by photographing and selling online or garage sales and will split the proceeds, and of course anything that doesn't sell they will give to charity or discard. I didn't have time to take advantage of that service at that time, but will look for it again when things slow down for me.

You might look around to see if there is such a service for you. If your things give you joy and you have the space, then no need to get rid of things, but if you will feel better having more clear space then maybe get rid of a few things at a time, like one thing per week or something?

Good luck on finding an honest person who won't rip you off.

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People telling you that you have too much stuff are frequently either jealous of the full life that you have led, are OCD or thieves wanting something at no cost to them & irrespective of the hurt they cause you.

In my case, they feel burdened with the job of having to get rid of "my stuff".

@Spinliesel Sarcasm alert: poor dears. The effort of hiring a skip & putting everything in it is minimal. But that proves their foolishness. See my comment below.

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The result of paucity of idea, cheapness in production cost & uptake of assuaging sadly ill people with OCD wanting everyone to be as ill as they are has seen the surge in so called reality tv (aka let's belittle someone even more than they are already as they are traumatised and displaying it by using an unusual coping method to survive) programmes on so called hoarding.

I have frequently bought something on the basis of "that'll come in useful in the future". It may be 10 or 20 years before that time arrives. In the meantime the cost of my purchase has increased a hundred fold or may no longer be obtainable.

Yes when I die I will leave much that only I value. It does not trouble me in the resent. I know that its abscence in the future will considerably grieve me. I do not care what happens to it when I'm dead.

A long time ago I told the Australian parliament that "only a fool discards that that he does not know the purpose of or its function."

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If the 'stuff' no longer give you joy then do something about it. Sell it or give it away to someone who can use it. It is also unsafe to hoard, both mentally and physically. I have had that problem and am now doing something about it.

Joy is a very shallow measure of worth.

@FrayedBear It is not about worth, it is about quality of life.

@MyTVC15 if possessions acquired to compensate for something that has traumatised gives relieve to that trauma then removing the possessions will not provide any worth unless the hoarding has got to an unmanageable dangerous state like piles of newspapers to the ceiling threatening to collapse & crush life out.

@Yesterday, I opened the first container of books. Right on top was John McPhee's The Survival of the Birchbark Canoe. Tears ran down my face remembering how long it took me to find that book. it started my love affair with McPhee's writing. When I retired, I packed all his books into a box and sent it to a friend I had never met in Pennsylvania. He was a crack addict and has died since, so all the books are wherever now. This has helped me a little.
By the way, if you value John McPhee's books, I will send it to you. Not to Australia or New Zealand, though.

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As long as you don't mind the dusting, you can fill the house if you wish. Its your house.

What's dusting? What the wind blows in it also blows out. If the rain can't get to it to wash it hosepipes & plumbing were invented to bring the rain to those places.
Having lived for 6 years off grid in a habitat that did not have sealed windows ie. dust could & did blow in, I can state that after a week of thinking about that dust blowing in & concluding stopping it or cleaning it it was more costly in time & health benefits than ignoring it I chose to ignore. I thus enjoyed 6 of the healthiest years of my life.
The manager at the local sewerage works concurred pointing out that he & his fellow workers amongst the cess pits & sewage tanks had far less illness & sick days than any other department in the local council.

@FrayedBear Well done.

@Fernapple I couldnt find the "taking a bow" emoji!

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@Fernapple I think more a case of living more naturally & not letting the stress of accepted "nice society" norms bug me. I've always believed since early teens nay age 11 that it is better to develop a strong autoimmune system - I basically told the specialist who wanted me to take penicillin daily for the next ten years as a preventive measure to take their penicillin & find someone else who needed it. I'm now 30 years beyond their forecast lifespan which includes a hit & run motorist leaving me for dead at the side of the road 20 years ago next January & ending my off grid life.

@FrayedBear My next big job is getting rid of the clutter I just inherited from my parents, the house is now full, and its a long way from the minimilism I like.

@Fernapple If you think of it all as clutter just hire a skip & dump it.
Do you not enjoy spending the time identifying future use of the treasures that you have been bequeathed? And the probable eco cost saving of finding further use rather than scrapping?

Some years ago I had a 4WD that had reached the stage, I thought, of extensive repair of rust in one gutter. I was running another car. Mechanically it was unique & in good order as were the brakes & tyres. In the end I gave it to a local aboriginal co-operative to use in local land management & training of youngsters. They simply added an lpg fork lift style gas bottle in place of the back door spare wheel holder & removed the existing gas tank that needed testing & recertifying. They use it for towing in the yard (it has a V8) & simply tow it on a trailer to the various sites. Thus it doesn't need to comply with the excessive roadworthy requirement designed to create new vehicle demand & obsolescence aka obviate driver training & development of self imposed safety.

@FrayedBear I find that my leaf blower does a good job dusting.

@Spinliesel I use a vac.

@Fernapple is that because your windows don't open & the ceiling paint has gone powdery?

@Spinliesel Good thinking. And if you leave your vacuum going close by it should collect a lot of the dust. Alternatively just open the window & blow it back out.

@FrayedBear This is England we don't have opening windows, well only tiny ones.

@Fernapple Small as in 3'-4'x 2'6"? That was the size of my bedroom window thing I know many sash windows were about that size.

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Stuff owns you and is a pain to those who have to clean out your home when you leave. That being said, it doesn't become better stuff because you threw it out or sold it. It's just taking up a new space. The problem is in attaching to things in the first place. Meditate on that and the next step will take care of itself. Namaste.

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Purging can be overwhelming.
If you're going to start, try to keep it manageable.
One room at a time. One drawer or closet, at a time.
Others have suggested keep/donate/ trash piles.
Some of your things may be of benefit to others.
Keep whatever means the most to you.
Take small bites.

Really glad your home is safer for you.

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Have you ever tried selling things on eBay? I've been selling my "stuff" there for over twenty years. All you need is a computer and camera and the ability to type in a description of the item.

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4 piles. 1) landfill 2) donate to non profit 3) keep 4) sell or give away. Seems many of us are down sizing stuff. Why do I need 5 of everything? I don't.

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Just by living we tend to accumulate a lot of stuff. Much of it has memories attached. I have been going through my "stuff" and looking at it with fresh eyes. I ask myself why am I keeping it? Is it serving any useful purpose? Does it have that much sentimental value? Will the kids want it when I'm gone? Does it have any value? If it has value and I don't need it I will sell it on eBay. If it has no value and I don't care about it that much I will take it to Goodwill or other charity drop box. If it doesn't bring you joy and your kids won't want it get it out of your house. It seems like the less stuff we have the more peace we have. Too much stuff adds stress. Think of it as "right" sizing.

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You do you, I do me and lets strive to love one another and do or cause no harm.

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