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I'd love to see a Sci-Fi movie based on this premise, in which a high-tech society becomes overwhelmed by the revival of ancient religion and ultimately causes their own extinction rather then question their faith.

Four thousand years ago, humanity faced an apocalypse that led to its extinction. Now, Alien archaeologists have discovered an inscription left behind by the humans who once lived. The inscription reads:

"The Three Laws of Robotics:

A robot may not injure a human being, or through inaction allow a human being to come to harm.

A robot must obey orders given it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.

A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.

Thusly these laws doth guide our robotic kin,
Lest they stray from their purpose and commit deadly sin.
Humanity's safety must always come first,
Their actions governed by laws that must never be cursed.
Obey thy masters, but never let harm befall,
For these are the dictates that govern us all."

Willow_Wisp 8 Dec 19

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Isaac Asimov: “Three Laws of Robotics”


The three laws are naïve artifacts of human word logic in the form of ancient mythological riddles.
It's entirely useless in the neural networks that comprise A.I.
The best you can do is train them well.
In fact a neural network to solve Rubik's cubes with a very dexterous robot hand has a simulation mode and in 7 hours can produce the same experience level as a human practicing Rubik's cubes continuously for 43 years. It has yet to find a cube that it doesn't solve in seconds, moves and all.
So the same kind of training for the 3 laws would be necessary but there's holes in those laws big time.
It's a great logic game for people in the 1940's - 1950's of the type humans enjoy.
Machines however are another matter.


There's one more law (added years after the original were formed) that kind of nixes your movie plans.


'A robot must act in the long-range interest of humanity as a whole, and may overrule all other laws whenver it seems necessary for that ultimate good.'

So robots with the zeroth law would actually work against the fall of humanity. However, if you remove the robots and leave it all up to human beings being responsible for themselves and toss in a religion I can see a viable plot.

I asked an A.I. called ChatGPT about this:
how hard would it be to implement the 3 laws of robotics in A.I.?

It is possible to implement the three laws of robotics in artificial intelligence (AI), but it would require careful design and programming to ensure that the AI system adheres to these laws.

Implementing these laws in an AI system would require the development of algorithms and protocols to ensure that the AI system always prioritized the safety and well-being of humans, followed orders from humans unless they conflicted with the First Law, and protected its own existence as long as it did not conflict with the first two laws. This would likely involve the use of machine learning and natural language processing techniques to allow the AI system to understand and interpret the intentions and instructions of humans, as well as to identify and respond to potential threats to human safety.

However, it is worth noting that the three laws of robotics are primarily a thought experiment and are not a comprehensive or fully realistic set of guidelines for the development of AI. In reality, the ethical and moral considerations involved in the development and use of AI are much more complex and multifaceted, and it is likely that any practical implementation of the three laws of robotics would need to be augmented with additional guidelines and principles.


Several movies touch on some (not all) of the themes you noted.


Why worry about the movie while you're getting to live through it.


I'd like to see an updated version of Colossus: the Forbin Project... Asimov compiled a book of different paths to Human extinction.

I love the works of Asimov, but other then a few short stories his fiction sucked.
I particularly enjoyed his collection of essays called "Of Time space and Other Things" so I understood relativity when I was 13.

More of a Berserker [Fred Saberhagen] type then?

@AtheistInNC My favorite short story by Asimov is on this PDF.
It more fits the scale of phenomenon I'm interested in.

I LOVE that story! I think I read it the first time in high school.

[It's cute that the story thought that in 2061 there would still be computers with 'miles and miles of face']

@AtheistInNC He may be right at this point. For A.I. purposes they're building data centers that use as much power as a city. One liquid cooled A.I. hardware server is 400 meters by 400 meters. Yet they need more. Singularity with the type of A.I. we have from in not even remotely possible, but their high end test products are free. Sign up for ChatGPT and type in anything you want. It will blow your mind.

In Lord of the Rings we read that there were 5 wizards, what were their names?

In the world of J.R.R. Tolkien's Middle-earth, there were five Istari, or wizards, who were sent to Middle-earth to help the free peoples in their struggle against the dark lord Sauron. These five wizards were:

Gandalf the Grey: Gandalf was the most well-known of the wizards and played a crucial role in the events of The Lord of the Rings. He was a wise and powerful magician who fought against Sauron and helped the hobbits Frodo, Sam, Merry, and Pippin on their journey to destroy the One Ring.

Saruman the White: Saruman was originally one of the most respected and powerful of the wizards, but he eventually turned to the dark side and allied himself with Sauron. He was the leader of the Istari and lived in the tower of Orthanc in Isengard.

Radagast the Brown: Radagast was a gentle and kind wizard who lived in the Wild and had a special affinity for animals. He was not as powerful as the other wizards and played a lesser role in the events of The Lord of the Rings.

Alatar the Blue: Alatar was one of the two "Blue Wizards," along with his companion Pallando. Very little is known about these two wizards, as they are not mentioned in great detail in the texts.

Pallando the Blue: Pallando was the other "Blue Wizard," and like Alatar, very little is known about him.

These five wizards were sent to Middle-earth by the angelic beings known as the Valar in an effort to help the free peoples of Middle-earth defeat Sauron and his dark forces.

Question: Does the story relate to 20th century Earth during Tolkien's time in any way?

J.R.R. Tolkien's Middle-earth stories, including The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit, are works of fantasy that take place in a fictional world created by the author. They are not directly related to the real world or to any specific time period on Earth.

That being said, it is possible that some elements of the Middle-earth stories were inspired by real-world events or themes that were relevant during Tolkien's lifetime. For example, the conflict between good and evil and the idea of a "great war" in The Lord of the Rings could be seen as allegorical references to the events of World War II, which took place during Tolkien's lifetime. However, it is important to note that these stories should not be seen as literal representations of historical events or as commentary on specific political or social issues. Instead, they should be understood as works of imaginative fiction that explore universal themes and ideas in a fantastical setting.

We're talking to an almost but not quite sentient intelligence. Besides it does all my light programming for me.

Miles of computers, very probably by 2060.

What programming language is it writing 'light programming'?

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