I've been following the story of the teenage boy in Alabama who was pronounced brain dead. His parents had just signed the paperwork for organ donation when all of a sudden he began to respond. He has now said that while he was unconscious (my confusion is that he was supposedly brain dead) he walked along a field and he believes he was in heaven. Then later his mom says the color of his eyes has changed and that is a sure sign he was reborn. I am shaking my head in confusion and wonderment. Was he really not brain dead and the doctors called it incorrectly? Can a brain dead person return to a state of near normalcy after 15 minutes of being in that state? I know he wasn't in "heaven" but if he was dreaming would that not indicate he could not have been brain dead? What do you think of this news story?
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Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.I don't know much about Alabama ... Is this not traditional KKK territory?
Perhaps I should love to Alabama ... I am a self confessed KKK => ? KuhKackeKuenstler ? (German for BullShitArtist)
PontifexMarximus
Level 8
May 7, 2018
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yes and many other bad stuff. has nothing to do with this kid
Yeah Alabama is fairly awful
@AmelieMatisse I imagine it to be like the deep north of Australia
@PontifexMarximus never been to Australia but I'm thinking Alabama is worse.
@AmelieMatisse If I were standing next to you, I would start my next sentence with When I was in jial in Far North Queensland ... I really was ... ok I could leave after finishing my job ..
To give you an idea 77% of the inmates were Aborigines, indigenous people. Yet they represent, in that part of the world they represent less than 8% of the total population, about 3% in Australia. I had one class with 10/11 indigenous men and one guy who was the first ever to be convicted of slavery.
I was even arrested for having the audacity to talk to some harmless fellas, colloquial term for the aborigines.
Ok I have never been to Alabama, but remember some horrific documentary.
@PontifexMarximus our prisons hold a higher percentage of non-whites and we have the issue of police brutality. And if a white guy guns down 10 people he has mental problems but a non white is immediately tagged as a terrorist.
@AmelieMatisse same here ... Often I only find vulgarisms to describe the situation especially for poor aborigines.
There is a very long history of this kind of thing. I have no pretense to being an expert, but there are such out there. An article from Sam Harris (who may be one):
[samharris.org]
bjporcella
Level 5
May 7, 2018
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Eyes can change colour, they may change back quickly.
The brain dead thing concerns me, but only a little.
The dreams may not have occurred until the instant he was coming out of it, there is no time in the brain.
Though I do worry about how final brain death is now.
Rugglesby
Level 8
May 7, 2018
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The BBC have also picked up the story: [bbc.co.uk]
Note "At one point, Ms Reindl said, Trenton died on the table for 15 minutes". Not the doctors, but the boy's mother.
Jnei
Level 8
May 8, 2018
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Interesting...so she is adding to the story
@AmelieMatisse otherwise there might not even be a story.
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