Why do men think that they should be with younger women? Women live longer than men do, so, if anything, I would think that women should be with younger men. But, ideally, isn't the best relationship between equals? Doesn't the older man set himself up for failure by only being interested in a much younger woman?
"Doesn't the older man set himself up for failture ..." Well at least he can tell himself: "At least I have tried."
Marrying an older woman is no guarantee either.
What is interesting, is that older women tend to forget that they were once younger.
You probably never gave older women the chance. I was a muse for a sketch artist at the age of 50. Totally uninhibited, in are older women. I could die tomorrow. Live wildly
@Iamkratom As I said this depends on the phase in one's life. As mentioned before I was into older women until my own aging process had etched away the difference. When I was 15 I often fantasise about women 3 times my age. If I had maintained that mind set I would be fantasizing about Napoleon's daughter and other ladies soon celebrating their bicentennary.
Time is a good healer but a lousy beautician. I can also understand that younger ladies might not be at all interested in old men.
One of my female friends married a 25 y-o guy when she was 50. Her dilemma was that she wanted to minimize the impact of aging on the various parts of her body. Sadly enough one of her breast implants ruptured.
I don't know whether this was a contributing factor in the breakdown.
Just keep an eye on Emanuel Macron and his wife Brigitte.
@PontifexMarximus if Macron ends up back on the market, le jeu est en cours
@seaspot_run perhaps he'll propose to le Donald
@PontifexMarximus LOL! Guess I will have to go back to Justin Trudeau for my political crush then.
If you really think about this, it makes sense from a biological/evolutionary standpoint. The female role in propogating the species is bearing and rearing children. Younger women are generally more fertile and before modern medicine were better able to survive childbirth (and therefore better able to raise the child). Older men may be better able to provide for a family, or there might be a selection factor in that an older man could be a proven provider rather than a younger man who might or might not become able to provide for a family. I suspect that it's really only in the last 100-150 years that marriages between people of roughly the same age have become the norm.
I should have said "some" men, or perhaps "so many" men. My statement is unfair as it stands. I enjoyed reading all the comments. Thanks.
Do you know why men generally die sooner that women?
Because they want to.
<running and ducking>
Hahaha do you know me. Lol
I've been known to say, "Married men don't live longer. It just seems longer."
@Gwendolyn2018 : Well played!
Quite Honestly, although I have noticed the phenomenon, I have never experienced it. Since I am an oldie, I have to share that my 4 best/longest relationships were with younger men, although I never planned it that way. My first husband was 5 years younger, and when he passed away, my second husband was 12 years younger. At first, I felt that I was too old to go out with him, but he was just so persistent, he sort of wore me down, but in a good way. We were just friends, and would occasionally do things together with our children. No one realized the age difference but me. Twenty years later, we're still married.
Age truly is just a number....having said that, I would say that men enjoy being in the company of attractive women. Younger women tend to have a slight edge in that department (not always, but we're speaking very generally here) so its not surprising that men are drawn to younger women. And if the woman in question is a real "head turner" - well, there's nothing that stokes a man's ego better than that. It's not fair....but it is what it is.
I had never really considered being with a woman younger than I. Then I met a woman who was that honestly has been the best relationship I've ever been in. Sadly we split for an issue that she had experienced in her life previously. But just a few days ago we decided to give it another try and I'm heading back that way soon. But I must add that she for her age. Is seriously more mature than women I've dated who are my age or older. Maybe a cultural thing or something. But if all goes well and I hope it does. I've found the best person ever for me.
Hope you both fine happiness
@SCbeelady we are working on it. Slow and steady.
I never cared for younger women. Seemed like all they wanted to do was party and go to sporting events. I was on a different path.
I don't know why men like younger women. I personally like younger men for a few reasons. 1. They are healthy. 2. They aren't caught up with all old prejudice men of my age are.
3. They like to do things. Dance, hike, fish, camping. 4. Better in the sheets.
Now I know this isn't true for every one but it has been my experience.
You know so little of men, but I don't feel bad for your bad choices. They are just... your choices!
I like men who enjoy fishing!
@Gwendolyn2018 I am very naive of what is going on online.I went to NYC yesterday and there was a very agressive behavior toward me by a lady in the small gathering, joke aside, she was serious. I was the only one not drinking and I was available but we are not 16 anymore. Got roudy! Not what I am looking for.
@Gwendolyn2018 for sure, the deceiver that hides that or that don't even care. Women in my life let me know when I get out of line. Daughters, ex wife, sister, ex girlfriend... and also my son, I been very lucky with a good support group. They let me know because they care and want me around for a long time. And I also like myself and that is very important.
@Gwendolyn2018 Exactly
@SCbeelady True words for sure. Goes the other way around the same way.
I may not have a popular opinion here but I do think there is a genetically-ingrained Sociobiological imperative that is pretty strong for men who are from 40-60. After that, I'm all WTF are you THINKING? From a purely sex/biology standpoint, men age more slowly than women. From an intellectual/conversational standpoint, not so much.
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@Gwendolyn2018 Ok here is the deal. Female menopause is a real thing that drops your sex drive hormonally to some extent and decreases the natural lubrication and so forth of your vaginal lining. If you want to keep your vag in working sexual order you need to either insert hormonal creams, rings, or suppositories into it or take oral hormone replacement or utilize sexual lubricants. Men can still function well enough sexually for longer than that in most cases without need to involve the medical profession. They do not need to visit a pharmacy or gynecologist in most cases while they are still in their 50's to function like they were still in their 30's. Your mileage may differ, but I assure you for most women, they need a bit of help. Men later, yes, but not in their 50's.
@seaspot_run I'd like to see evidence supporting that statement. It's not my experience. I mean that you can't be in working sexual order without involving the medical profession. I don't believe it. If anything it's men with that problem with that little blue pill.
Ok, I won't argue with those of you who feel men are less able, but it's not been my personal experience. That's not data, it's just anecdote, obviously.
Me personally, I like men who aren't set in their ways and are young at heart. Could be younger or older than me. But that sounds horribly cliched. And I feel exactly the same way about female friends. Basically just saying the sort of person I'd want to invest a lot of time and energy developing a relationship with.
Well most men assume that other men will assume, that a younger woman is attracted to him based on penis size and performance. It really turns out to be the size of his wallet as older men are more successful then their younger counter parts. Six months later he is crying a rivet because he feels no responsibility for his actions nor lack of thought process.
@DUCHESSA, @jorj I probably should have said sexual performance not size. Certainly a younger woman with a much older man indicates ( falsely so in some cases) that men can keep up in bed. If that were the case Viagra would be prescribed. Yes, other men do praise sexual performance of their elder peers.
So as a 68 year old male what happens to me? I guess the choices will be an 80 year old woman or celibacy. Hmmm.. 80 it is!
Another 68 year old female
@Iamkratom I thought the 68 year old women would be with 58 year old men?
@tymtravler She would probably be living a happy life with 58 cats.
I got nothing to prove, I want a woman my age, I don't want a nurse, I want an old soul wth plenty to live for.
It's possibly an ego thing. Having said that, i surround myself with younger people generally. Perhaps it keeps me feeling young and vibrant. Many of my generation get into 'old mode' ( dress sense, ideas, thinking).
I've never really paid much attention to someone's age.....when I was around 27 or so, I became best friends with a woman who was in her mid 60's. We had a lot of fun doing stuff together....over the years, I've made friends with people much younger - and much older than I am. Lets face it....if you're an interesting, vibrant 20 yr old with a great personality, you will likely be the same way when you're 70. My husband is 18 years younger than I am....the people who know us well have said that somebody mixed up the birth certificates because they think he acts my age and vice versa....hahahaha.
Different strokes & all that I guess. Men my age/older than me don't seem to be interested in me, which is fine. We get along well as coworkers & platonic friends. Men who are 10+ years younger than me have shown interest & have pursued me romantically. I'm fine with that too.
I think ... I know I'd disagree about older men not wanting to date you... Unless in fact you don't wish to date older men. Personally I like women that are intelligent, independent, strong in their convictions, and quite frankly comfortable in their own skin. I however do not seem to get along with women who pretend they're cool cause at the age of 50 plus I still act and play like a 20 something. But that's me ... age really is relative. I know younger woman that are more mature ( and that's a good thing) than some older women trying to relive their youth. Again that's me ... of course I'm now at the age that and intelligent conversation is a very sexy thing!
@Mistral i've dated men my age who turn around & break things off for reasons like "you don't have enough time for me" because I don't want to be out till 2am during the work week, "you arent spontaneous enough" because I have responsibilities that need to be arranged for, "you are too rigid" because I don't drink (say so up front) & don't enjoy being with someone stumbling drunk, little alone pawed by one., and, my fave, "you are way too opinionated", because I actually have well thought out, considered, & researched opinions from credible sites. I make sure everyone knows plenty up front. I try to make sure there are no surprises. But on a nice fall day, I'd rather be hiking or camping than sitting at buffalo wild wings watching football, unable to hear any conversation that isn't yelled at me.
Actually, I prefer women in my own age range
As a man who does prefer younger women, here's my 100% honest take on it:
Reason 1) Younger people are generally more attractive and, to quote Adam Duritz "we all want something beautiful." Now, of course that's a broad generalization and older women are often beautiful, too.
Reason 2) My greatest fear in life is the death of my significant other. Younger people tend to have more life ahead of them. Again, a generalization, but I figure it's realistic to assume that someone who's younger will be less likely to suddenly die (accidents obviously being the exception).
Reason 3) Maybe it's weird that I'm almost 40 and I still don't know for certain, but the honest confession is that I'm not sure if I want kids or not. Really, I've never dated someone that made me feel certain that I wanted to have kids with them. I have dated a couple women that I absolutely knew that I didn't want to have kids with them. When I'm dating, I'm primarily interested in dating women in their 30's and late 20's because most women in their 40's and older have either had kids and don't want more or don't want kids at all?
So, overall, I guess it's basically just vanity?
Thanks
@Stephanie99 I hope this was helpful. When I was in my 20s and early 30s, roughly half of my girlfriends were older but, as I age, younger women become more attractive for the reasons I listed. I'd still greatly prefer to find someone around my age, but if lighting strikes...
@Faithless1 Honestly, that's a little weird to me, too. My youngest girlfriend was 12 years younger than me, but it was still a 22-year-old dating a 34-year-old. Even then, the maturity differences were really staggering after a couple years (though a lot of that was also differences in our personalities).
Just for kicks, here's another oddball relationship for you - my uncle (though I usually don't claim him lol) is 63, is married to a woman who's 42, and they just had twins a few months ago
@Faithless1 She's actually Russian. Seriously. She's his third "mail order bride" from Russia. The first one left him to go back to Russia after living with him a few weeks. The second stuck around long enough to get a work permit or something and then took off with another guy
@Faithless1 So here's something else weird about it - that uncle and aunt divorced back in the 80's, long before any of the mail order bride shenanigans. They had one son together before the divorce, who's one of my best friends. Well, the aunt remarried in the late 80's and had two kids. One of them, who has never had any contact with my uncle, married a gal from the Ukraine a couple years ago
Why do you think it's all men ? And what about women ? I tend to date younger myself - just how things work out ...
And as long as minds meet, and all parties are of consenting age - who cares ?
Brings to mind a comment made by Clint Eastwood, when asked about his then, much younger wife, and what he thought about their big age gap ? He replied, " if she dies, she dies "
@Faithless1 good for you !
It really depends on the moment or the phase in one's life. When I was in my late teens and early twenties I likes mature women in their early to mid-thirties. Now I am 63 and I sitll like them.
Several years ago I had two female visitors, both menopausal women. One was about 48 and Japanese and the other about 53 and Taiwanese.
Somehow the conversation deviated into the rapids of precisely the question of preferred age range by men . The Taiwanese said: "I cannot understand why men prefer younger women ..." To which the Japanese very calmly replied: "L. fresh fruit - dried fruit ... Which ones do you prefer?"
I was very amused by this conversation and immediately thought od dried prunes so popular as laxatives.
Sometimes later when I had the rare opportunity to take look into the Taiwanese lady's vagina, I almost felt compelled to raise the issue.
If sex is not an issue, age really doesn't matter.
Status and sex appeal probably count for a lot. I dated a woman who was 14 years younger in my late 30s, but she was very mature, educated and we had great chemistry and communication. Generally I date women within 5 years of my age, but I don't have any set rule.