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Listening to "The Way of the World" by Ron Suskind...he states that the US government has been using fear of terrorism to deplete our freedoms. Do you believe that is the case, or are the majority of citizens just too self-centered, head-in-the-sand types that cannot be bothered with social activism, making the populace easily swayed into allowing the erosion of our freedoms and governing principles?

MSALLAYNEOUS 4 May 14
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The patriot act is a classic example of the erosion of our freedoms. Another example is the use of cameras on streets and by businesses. EVERYONE has one! That's the first thing police look for when an accident or a crime occurs. Cameras don't lie. GOP politicians are obsessed with Crime and Punishment because they want unlimited power to enforce laws and people are often willing to over police abuse liberties in the name of patriotism.

Trod Level 5 May 14, 2018
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The government can manipulate so many people with fear BECAUSE so many people are self-centered idiots. Manipulating the masses to be apathetic makes them easily controlled.

The question that remains is whether people are self-centered idiots because government run schools deliberately teach them to be that way, or, are people just self-centered idiots?

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It's a combination of both. They use fear to erode away rights and indifference too keep those rights eroded. Both parties use fear to push their agendas but as of late the Republicans have been a lot better at it. Fear of terrorism, fear of immigrants, fear of crime, and ironically, fear of having your rights taken away are all being used to 'temporarily' wittle away at everyone's civil liberties and indifference to keep the new restrictions in place indefinitely.

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Hell yes! It's true.
They're also encouraging the fear of immigrants. Immigration isn't anywhere near the "crisis" they're making it out to be.

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I think it's obvious. Yes.
Fear is a commodity and means of control.

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Fear is a method to keep the masses in line or quiescent. The government, corporations, religious groups have always used it as a tool. And again, some people's fear is another positive action.

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The "Homeland" act was the Real Beginning of loss of rights.

Coldo Level 8 May 14, 2018

Indeed.
"Patriot Act" my ass.

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The U.S. has used the fear of terrorism to mask their true intentions in the Middle East to the U.S. citizenry, and it's been working on most of them. Fear of terrorism drums up much more support for the government's actions than nation building and robbing other countries resources through wars. Also, the closer we get to resource depletion (oil), the more and more the government will put the vice on personal freedoms because there will be civil unrest. Even renewable energy requires some oil. If we don't completely turn around and use completely renewable energy, then we will be doomed in our way of life. Billions of people will die.

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How the capitalist ruling class operates:-

  1. Invade or bomb foreign nations - for imperialist goals and to justify arms spending and to boost the profits of the arms industry.

  2. Poke a stick in a hornets nest - when attacking foreign countries expect retaliation in the form of terrorist attacks. This is all good as it creates an enemy which can then distract from the ruling class's exploitation of its own people. This creates fear which allows governments to introduce draconian laws which impede on everyone's civil rights whilst creating divide and rule tensions. The spotlight is moved away from them and their exploitation of us.

  3. If there are no terrorist attacks, stoke anti immigrant sentiment (divide and rule again) which keeps us all fighting amongst ourselves whilst the ruling class continue to screw us over.

  4. Secretly use illegal immigrants for cheap labour whilst publicly demonising them. It's a win win situation.

  5. If no immigrants are available to exploit, stoke up religious tensions instead (divide and rule again) whilst still enjoying the benefits of a population of theists who complain less and put up with bad wages and working conditions because a better life awaits. Politicians will still endorse a multi faith society for future divide and rule mileage.

  6. If all else fails, ingratiate yourself to your public by appearing on chat shows and comedy sketches.

  7. Desperate measures - start wars to focus attention away and create an enemy whilst whipping up nationalism and patriotism securing an election win.

And if it didn't work, they wouldn't do it! Beautiful summation Ellatynemouth!

@MSALLAYNEOUS

Thank you 🙂

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I would think that any comments made regarding this would be pure speculation with a huge dose of confirmation bias added for good measure.

Seriously? What might you think is the true issue then? Why is our society losing freedoms at such a great rate? Why are the citizens allowing this?

@MSALLAYNEOUS I will only speak for myself but I am not aware of losing ANY freedoms. Of course certain groups have always been denied freedoms and some that have achieved success in obtaining some freedoms are being targeted to having those freedoms taken away. People allow this to happen due mostly to religion and political philosophies. IMHO

@jlynn37: I believe that the ban on Muslims entering the United States was a definite loss of freedom, and you're right, it was due to religion. Our founders fled religious persecution. Freedom of religion has been one of the primary principles our Constitution guarantees. It is illegal to ban anyone due to religious beliefs!

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We've been eroding freedoms for a long time. Any genuine review of US history, from breaking treaties with Natives under Washington, to expansion of federal/presidential powers under numerous POTUS right up to the recent tax bill...nobody would blindly trust our government

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Yes and the need for the military spending

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I don’t believe they’re smart enough to do that on purpose. Of course, it just may turn out that way just because the news media and opposition are too preoccupied with the latest tweets to pay attention to the long-term effects of their actions. ☹️

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Say it ain't so, Joe.

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People will usually trade freedom for security. This is dangerous and regrettable, but understandable. Freedom does you no good if you are dead.

@Omen6Actual A Benjamin Franklin quote. Good reference.

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trump administration is to blame for terrorsim fear

I think it's been around a little longer than that

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One prime means of creating or maintaining a dictatorship is to keep the citizenry in a state of fear.

Are we creating or maintaining a dictatorship?

@JeffB Maintaining by fomenting fear.

@Dooley do you really think the US is a dictatorship? Or is that a bit of inflammation language? I've been an activist for years and never got treated like how an actual dictator would treat activist. I'm pretty disappointed in my follow Americans on how passive they are considering the low risks.
This is not to justify how the cops and the government treats activist, not to dismiss accounts like Fred Hampton or the MOVE bombing.

@JeffB Not a dictatorship that is usually accepted in the classical sense. Certainly not a "democracy" considering rigged elections and the little difference between both major parties. The military industrial state is the dictator not any puppet they choose to be their figure head. In the quest to control world resources and finance it is in this states interest to keep non compliant states distabilised. And when economically profitable, raise the false flag and go to war. In order to get away with this it is essential to keep the populous in a state of fear. Just as in the US, their comprador allies here in Australia create false fear of terrorism. What better way to achieve this than to finance terrorist through the back door (eg, selling arms to Saudi Arabia who provides them to ISIS). And they use the fourth estate to keep the masses passive.
Fred Hampton (watched an anniversary presentation yesterday) and the MOVE bombing are but two examples of the terrorism of the state.

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