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Men/Women, Is sex a requirement for an enjoyable romantic relationship?

I have a friend that I grew up with who's been married for more than 30 years to her husband. She's mentioned that sex in there marriage is "a lot" if it's once a month. Which is to say sex is not a common activity in their marriage. They seem committed to one another and seem to love each other. They are very religious Christianish type folks. I must say however, that in family pics posted on facebook her husband, a late-fifties gray-haired Caucasian man in a suit, appears to have a barely noticeable half-sided "smile" with a what appears to always be a slightly dissatified countenance. He reminds me of a man secretly addicted to porn while being a church minister type. I wonder if a virtually sexless marriage with a person you love is common or acceptable to men or women. I find this topic interesting because I believe that the expression of love is most profoundly comminicated sexually. That is not too suggest that I don't realize there are an infinite number of ways to express romantic love however. What do you think about sexless marriages or sexless romantic relationships? Are they feasably potentially satisfying and healthy?

LilAtheistLady 7 July 8
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Everyone had different drives and interests. If she has always been hyper religious then she probably never got to explore or developed her sexuality outside of contact with her husband. Or through guilt laden experiences before marriage. At 30yrs of marriage she has probably been through menopause and now has even less interest.
For me itsa a deal breaker. Ar least to start a relationship. My wife has some pretty serious chronic illnesses but is still very interested in sex. We don't do it as often as we would like simply because the activity often makes her symptoms worse. But she is always ready to play

I know the feeling. I went several years without sex due to my fiancée’s declining health.

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I think sex is healthy in a relationship and it's usually the women, sometimes the men, who do not want sex. I bet you anything he's got a piece on the side.

@Alvinsmama I said I BET he does not that he did. Save your offense for something that is actually offensive.

Interesting. I I wonder if there studies on the matter. Im thinking there must be. Human sexuality is actually scientifically studied. I think the temperature in some of these responses are truly interesting.

@Alvinsmama do you really use the term "afront" on a regular basis? @Helionoftroy thank you for being so frank and honest about your thoughts.

@LetzGetReal You may leave this discussion at any time. I appreciate your point of view however. You're entitled to it.

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Depends on the person. I couldn't survive in a sexless relationship.

I tried to for many many years and was extremely unhappy. I might have been able to stick it out longer but there was no physical affection at al. No hugs or hand holding. I’m a very touchy feely person and just couldn’t be in a marriage like that any longer.

@Marcie1974 very sad. Aside from sexual interaction, a healthy human needs healthy touch to remain healthy. I get the best hugs from friends and family.

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There is no Yes or No answer to this. Every couple is different and the only thing that matters is compatibility. The trouble would arise if they were way out of sync with each other in sex drive. Personally, I was never interested in how often other couples had sex, I couldn’t say what too little would be, but you are drawing a lot of conclusions from scant information about the couple you refer to. I know of couples who never have sex due to erectile dysfunction or other problems such as injury, and still manage to have a loving relationship. I have always believed it is essential to really like your partner because over time the initial passion will lessen and then something more like deep affection will take it’s place.

Yes. Thank you for your thoughtful comment.

@LilAtheistLady You are welcome.

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It depends if both partners are satisfied being sexless. It didn’t work for me. Not only did I want sex and not get it, I received no physical affection (hand holding, hugs, etc).

@sliver101 I might have stuck it out longer had I gotten at least some form of touch. But, I got no physical affection, no emotional support, and he wasn’t a good provider financially. Should have left 5 years early but hindsight is 20/20

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Is a horse a requirement for a pleasant carriage ride?

lerlo Level 8 July 8, 2018

No - if it's a rickshaw ...

@evergreen exactly, it depends on the kind of ride you want and your definition of pleasant. Just like it depends on the kind of relationship you want and how pleasant you want it to be

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The people in a relationship should be sexually compatible. A person with a high sex drive and one with a low sex drive is going to lead to resentment over time. Same for a person who is adventurous with one that wants vanilla sex. It is all ok but giving up, or being forced to endure, due to the difference, leads people to feel like they are missing out. That is very unhealthy long term.

Alternatively, some people have open relationships so that they can stay with each other without having to match in the area of sex.

There is also nothing wrong with porn in an amount that helps him feel like he is not missing out as long as it doesn't leave her wanting. Unfortunately, most people hide their true desires, even from their partners, for fear of being judged. A real partnership is supportive of varying desires and each can share openly without fear of judgement. It is really the only way to figure out how both, or all, people in a relationship can be fulfilled.

I agree with you on many points. Thanks for answering the question intelligently and not being offended by it.

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I believe the majority of people would agree that for a romantic relationship to thrive and survive, there has to be a sexual relationship. I am one of those people. However, there are always exceptions. I’ve known people who are in relationships that are not sexual and it seems to work for them.

That's reasonable thinking and I agree. I also think "sexual" could be interpreted in a multitude of interesting ways.

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Asexual is code for married.

Mokvon Level 8 July 18, 2018
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No. It depends on the person.

I'm sick of our culture's obsession with sex.

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Love can exist without sex. I know a few couples like this who are devoted to each other. But for me, a sexless romantic relationship didn’t, doesn’t, and won’t ever work. Physical intimacy is the key to the lock that keeps me with someone. Even just a cuddle. The warmth and closeness it provides is invaluable.

Yes, I agree completely

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The old pennies in the jar story is quite true..most cis hetero men lose much of their sexual interest in their bride after two years and the sex frequency drops dramatically.

Then there are people who are on the asexual spectrum. In my case, I'm demisexual, so I do at least feel sexual attraction after a prolonged courtship of over a year. And even then, it's just for one person, and I can take it or leave it.

But when I did indulge, my strong libido and capacity for play and variety intimidated cis hetero men, who seemed to prefer "rabbit love" - as quick as possible, which most cis hetero women seem to prefer..

Thank you for answering this question in such an honest and thoughtful way. I learned from you.

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  1. you can not judge a person's sexual apetite and satisfaction by a photo picture. That's incredible assumption.

  2. SOME people DON'T LIKE SEX.

  3. Sex is not required for a health happy relationship

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I am single so my perspective is second hand. For married folk I talk openly with sex is a very important part of a healthy relationship. For those married with an unwilling/unable partner, there is a lack of full emotional health in their relationship. I am guessing there is a spectrum of need for each person so you will need a large sample group and a metric for defining "satisfying and healthy".

Good comment. I think my friend has a loving marriage as far as I can tell. They seem to enjoy being with one another. Just very little sex according to her. He on the other hand "seems" a bit withdrawn. Never smiles or laughs. Opposite to my friend. Maybe thats just him.

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Sounds like you want to help your friend, IF she is unhappy in her marriage. Every marriage (and relationship, for that matter) is a different combination of various components. Priorities of those components might or might not be agreeable to both parties in equal measures. Those are factors in deciding whether to stay together, work on issues, create work arounds, that might not be anyone’s business, or give it all up for door number 3.

While you might feel sorry for your friend, remember the quantity of sexual activity does not necessarily equal quality.

There may be psychological factors that could be helped with counseling, but sometimes there is just a lack of physical and emotional attraction. So the decision to stay together, despite a lack of sexual satisfaction, is a thoughtful decision. Your friend might complain to you, to vent her frustration, but she may not really want to do anything about it, except vent. Or perhaps she is seeking advice from you?

I was married a long long time. My ex-husband was not affectionate, not particularly physically attractive to me, and simply could not win or keep my admiration after the many demeaning things he would say and do. He was abusive as well. So it was simply impossible for me to want to have sexual relations with him. We slept apart, for 20+ years of our marriage. Duty sex, when demanded, was obviously not satisfying for me. Couldn’t wait to get out of the marriage, but thought it best to stay together for the kids.

After freeing myself from my bad marriage, I became the sexual being I always was inside and had an intimate partner for several years who helped me discover the joys of sex. Saddest part of this discovery is lamenting about all the years I missed out on such wonderful sex, had I left my marriage sooner.

I don’t think a satisfying sex life is mandatory for a marriage or a relationship, but it definitely is a bonding gesture that enhances a relationship greatly and can sometimes be the one thing that keeps a couple together during other dissatisfactions. The success of a relationship can not be based on sexual compatibility alone. There must be other factors that keep her invested in the marriage.

I usually just keep my mouth shut and help by listening and not telling her what to do. She's been married for as many decades as I've been divorced. So I accept the fact that I am no expert on what it takes to have a successful and happy one. That being said, I really like your clear-minded, frank, and intelligent comment especially because you are a woman who has the guts to stand up and say it the way you see it. And I respect the way you said it. Thanks for being one among a handful of thoughtful and intelligent responses to the question. 🙂

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If it weren't for sex, I would just hang out with my friends, no romance required.

I think that's what a lot of my dog friend ladies do. They get their emotional "feed" from their dogs & each other. I can see me being this thing when I'm older. LOL

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no sex = no real relationship

I disagree. Sex is part of the equation, a very important part, indeed, but not the whole of it. If a relationship cannot survive without sex, then what will happen when we are both 80 years old, or, even sadder, when one member of the couple can no longer have sex, due to an illness or an accident? "Real" relationships, and real love can and will survive without sex.

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I hesitate to infer anything into the nature of your friends' intimate lives beyond the information given explicitly. A smirk in a photograph is way too ambiguous to drill down to something as specific as a porn addiction.

People have different libidos from one another, and a person's libido varies over the course of one's lifetime and one's emotional route through life.

Speaking strictly for myself, I've found that in the early stages of a romantic relationship I can't get enough of her: I want sex a lot, and it's fun and passionate and pleasingly distracting from other things. That "pleasingly distracting" part is critical: if the relationship is nothing but sex, it's not going to last very long, because the sex is distracting from doing other things necessary to build the relationship. Over time, desire tapers down but never goes away.

Also, I've been fortunate in my life to not have any sort of physiological problems interfering with ability or desire. Not everyone is so fortunate.

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I think every couple is different, if they are BOTH happy with ones a month, good for them!!!!!
.. I would probably die tho... LOL

@vmedel. Lol cmon look at you! Shit that is not gonna happen

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In my marrige we’d barely get to double figures in a year. I hated that. I think subconsciously it lead to resentment and anger which then made me not be the husband perhaps I should’ve been.

Thanks for your honesty.

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Depends on the people involved. I was in a sexless marriage for way too long. It was also a verbally abusive relationship. It fucking sucked and has scarred me. It’s been 8 years since that ended and I’m still recovering.

If it is important to both, yes. If one is not into it then that is a BIG problem.

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Sex should never be a requirement. In some situations it might not even be possible. Needs, desires, and ability should be understood by both parties.

Wow, this answer impresses me.

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No one mentioned an open relationship. What if one partner had a fetish that the other couldn't or didn't want, for various reasons, do? They are great together but that stands in the way. What if children are involved? Should they divorce? In many great stories the men have philandered while the wife remained at home,miserably faithful.

I thought about that too. Sex can be complicated and about a lot more than just intercourse.

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It didn't work for me. The difference in our definition of what "normal" married sex should be was way off. She would be quite willing to live together if there were no physical activities involved. I have absolutely no interest in a platonic housemate. When I love someone, I want to be as close to that person as two people can get. And it doesn't get any closer than sex. If I am going to have to masturbate and watch porn for sex, why bother having a wife or girlfriend? LOL

Right on... Otherwise: 2000 ducks or 2 years, whitchever comes first.....

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Might be best see b4 marrage if used to lots say 2/3 times a week,then after marry reduced to say 1 week, then 1 per month, then 1 yr, get out of marrage b4 you age badly

I was 3-5 day first year, 2/day for 30 years....... Life is always more fun with your pants off...

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