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LINK Iranian woman 'sentenced to 20 years in prison' for removing headscarf in protest | The Independent

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Theocracy!
Just wait until the evangelicals take over with Pence leading the way.

Countrywoman Level 7 July 11, 2018
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The evil of islam coming to a neighborhood near you.

Jacar Level 7 July 11, 2018
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Sorry dooood. This is theocracy. Not Islam.

@Countrywoman yeah: islamic theocracy

@Jacar Well that is true. But it is not coming here. We are more in danger of Pence & his evangelicals forcing us to pray in school again.

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Iran...Saudi...Sunni..or..Shia...they are all complete and utter basketcases...difficut to be tolerant of these regimes...

Hitchens Level 7 July 11, 2018
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A good example of how arbitrary and dictatorial a theocracy can be!

wordywalt Level 8 July 11, 2018
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If you have FB and you want to support Iranian women there's a page called "My Stealthy Freedom" where women post pictures of themselves without the oppressive chador. You can message them support in their struggle.

Gareth Level 7 July 11, 2018
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The fundies there should remove their brainscarves; it it restricting critical bloodflow.

Ignostic_Skeptic Level 7 July 11, 2018
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This should silence all the apologists who claim the hijab is a choice.

Ellatynemouth Level 8 July 11, 2018
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Why would the Creator of 100 billion galaxies, 28 billion light years in diameter, care so deeply about the uncovered heads of a species of primate on a spinning rock in a tiny solar system?

Deiter Level 6 July 11, 2018
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Don’t try to use logic here, there is none. It is mysogony plain and simple.

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@Marionville Divine misogyny, absolutely, but for One that began It's deity career as a war god, the record shows He hates everyone – even His Chosen.

@Deiter This is a nonsensical argument you are making. You are working from the premise that there is a creator when there isn’t . There is no god to care or not care about women’s heads covered or uncovered. Everything is a human construct, so no it is not divine misogyny it is man made misogyny that Iran is practicing. There are no chosen, all religions think they are the chosen ones, all delusional. We here are more rational and deal with reality not fantasy.

@Marionville Golly. You're fun!

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What blows my mind is that Western Persians adamantly deny that this is the situation in Iran. You can go watch public forums where Persians announce Weaterners are lying about the condition of women in Iran, despite the mountains of evidence indicating otherwise.

TiberiusGracchus Level 6 July 11, 2018

And Islam honors women. You know, like the way America honored Natives by putting them on coins while not allowing them to vote.

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This kind of thing is exactly why I think religion should be looked at with ridicule and contempt.

TristanNuvo Level 6 July 11, 2018
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I actually seethe when I read something like this. After a few minutes, when I have calmed down, and my brain starts operating properly again I begin to appreciate how fortunate I am. I am a white, middle-class woman, living in a democratic country. I can practice any religion I wish or not. I have the franchise to vote. I am free to travel anywhere I wish, without asking permission from a male guardian, and I can drive myself when I decide to do so. There are no dictats about what I can and cannot wear. I am free to marry anyone I wish without coercion. I won't be stoned to death or thrown in jail for a misdemeanour. I just wish I could do something to improve the lives of my fellow sisters who are condemned by accident of birth to a life of subordination and cruelty. I feel completely impotent!

Marionville Level 7 July 11, 2018
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Six smile039.gif more years of GOP control and your life will look a lot more like this poor woman's.

@NerdyOkieDude I am actually British. We have our problems, but becoming a theocracy is not one of them.

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@Marionville : and the Brexit types are beginning to slide back under the rocks from whence they slithered. I find my Anglophiliia re-surging.

Funnily enough you might be getting yelled at right here by the so called liberated feminists that inhabit this site for using the male dominated term "fellow sisters" 👹

@Anonbene A risk I am prepared to take.....I don’t have much truck with the p.c. brigade. They are mostly white middle class like me, in other words nothing to feel aggrieved at!

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I don't live in Iran... here people get shot for being dark skinned... judged and verdict exercised by a government employer... sorry if not in my priorities now, may never be since is on the other side of the world and capitalism dictates soverany of nations. Don't bring religion into it... I don't believe in god.

GipsyOfNewSpain Level 8 July 11, 2018
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Is there a point here? If it's some "cultural relativism" counter objection, that line of reasoning is a one way trip to solipsism. If your point is that we shouldn't criticize the mistakes other cultures when ours is so screwed up, without getting technical as to the nature of that fallacy . . . we've got more than enough time to criticize inhumane policies no matter where they arise.

Any law which treats someone as less than fully human, with all the rights of others, by virtue of some immutable physical characteristic, such as their sex, gender identity, color of their skin, and so on is shameful and should be called out . . . here and abroad.

As for bringing "religion into to it", I don't take kindly to being told how to craft my responses. But "religion" is relevant here and elsewhere whenever it seeks a privileged position to justify the afore-mentioned inhumanity, such as the case among the pious racists and misogynists among us.

@NerdyOkieDude Ignored.

@GipsyOfNewSpain : undoubtedly.

Holy crap. A well reasoned, thoughtful response and you just auto-ignore? Not even going to address any points made? Just auto-ignore any disagreement?

You’re obviously not at all a serious thinker in any respect. Pathetic.

I am replying to Gypsy of new spain, This is the argument I hear it all the time and you are misleading the facts. I am talking facts, written laws. Discrimination, white supremacy was brought in first, to steal the wealth GDP. I am from one of those older civilizations. One of my original post was mislead by a British, women, because even if they are in USA they would always act more American with there British accent, spending the stolen money. Tea Party is another prove of misleading and creating suffering. No its not Iran culture, religion, but was created to get the sui gas, oil. Its all about OPEC. Russia, USA want to be part of opec and that is why USA went to war. USA policy never denies the fact. They do not teach soldiers wrong information but is crafted by the spy. We have lot of spy living in USA, and other countries. I am not Irani. All this hate toward the rest of the world humans with little knowledge is unacceptable. All those new countries such as Isreal, Palestine, Saudia arabia etc are created from the GDP of older nations. Please study the facts, before you go on claiming the rest of the world do not matter, its only your suffering. We broke white black by assimilating, many of us are mutts, we broke the GDP theft by revolting. It was not a war. We where starved and we still survived. Listen to the word of Churchill. Not telling you what to do, but no matter where I am. At the library, neighborhood, work, gardening group, I see stupidity. Why do you guys thing you are the only victim in the world. The people who are teaching you are the one who benefit from other suffering.

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@TiberiusGracchus Was thinking the same thing.

@Arshi Before we try to fix or mettle in other countries Bullshit... we need to mettle and fix our Bullshit. I had been to the middle east... I spent 20 years in the US Navy... patrolling the Med etc, etc, etc. I remember visiting egypt and israel and couldn't tell one country that we were visiting the other. That was over 30 years ago... Nothing is new to me. Where ever is money to be made usa wants to be in... seems to me you should plead your case to the neighbors of iran... not to us... we got our own shit to worry about.

@TristanNuvo The same mothereffers that do not want the "ameriKKKan constitution" to be amended are always complaining about the laws and or religions of other countries... tsk, tsk, tsk. Mind your own biz.

@GipsyOfNewSpain Two things.. First. You do not nor will ever have the authority to tell me to mind my own 'biz'.

Second. Your intentional misspelling the word 'ameriKKKan' is something we used to do back in grade school.

To be honest, you really kind of come off as a child.

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Bet the local “Flasher” goes unpunished.... 🤬

Storybook Level 7 July 11, 2018
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Uppity woman takin' off her head scarf an' prancin' 'round like thet shoulda got worse for not stayin' in her place like she's s'poseta. Nex' thang ya know they's be wantin' t' vote an' wear pants 'stead o' a proper bag.

evidentialist Level 8 July 11, 2018
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MMmmm that's good satire.

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If the Evangelical, fundamentalists (who now control the Republican party), maintain power and have their way, 'merca stands a good chance of this happening here.

jlynn37 Level 8 July 11, 2018
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These Fascists pricks look at dystopian cautionary tales, and sexual harassment manuals as "how tos".

@NerdyOkieDude They only need their bible and there "interpretations" of said bible to justify any atrocity and inhumain activity just as Muslims only need the Quran. For the glory of "god".

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already is, by both christians and muslims

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That poor woman....😔

Storybook Level 7 July 11, 2018
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Poor women. It's compulsory ... women have to wear their hijabs there.

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@pepperjones I know that!!!! It’s the bloody 20 years I was referring to 😐

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