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Has anyone ever noticed that most atheist and agnostics know more about the Bible than most Christians do?

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I am told that I take the bible out of context. No I say. Read the words. Lol

Seems to me most Christians take the Bible out of context. They treat it like trail mix, keep the parts they like and throw out what they don't like.

It is easy to take some parts out of context. Not everything heinous that’s written about in the Old Testament is necessarily commanded or even condoned by the abrahamic god for example; but enough of it is to still make the same point lol.

@PalacinkyPDX I'm old enough remember the early days of backpacking with just two ingredients: good ol' raisins and peanuts (GORP). Today's trail mix is way too sugary for me. 😉

@Wurlitzer An interpretation that I've read is that going by old testament laws is basically saying that the sacrifice on the cross wasn't good enough to forgive those old sins. So basically if you accept Jesus as your lord and savior, old testament stuff kinda goes out the window. And yet Christians still love to cite Leviticus.

@Darla_Ann yeah Old Testament law is only applied literally by Orthodox Jews n even they have a couple extra books of clarification n detailing and updating n backpedaling to go along with it lol. Except when it comes to examples that are convenient like homosexuality of course. When it’s time to wear mixed fibers to shrimpfest with your tattoo of the cross after church it’s all good though.

@Wurlitzer exactly!

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That's how many Christians are converted to atheism.

dkp93 Level 8 Aug 9, 2018
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When I first "came out" to my religious friends in college, they actually pointed out that I knew more about the bible than they did.

Right! Many atheist or agnostics do know more. It’s actually pretty sad.

@EmeraldJewel That's the difference between thinking for oneself vs blindly accepting doctrine from a man on an alter.

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The ones that were indoctrinated do at least...

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Omg! right i have read it 4 times cover to cover. most of my "christian " friends can't even name all the books

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Know your opponent best strategy you can develope.

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I love this and no matter how apparent you make this, the Bible Thumping, Gun Toting, Racist Bigots will be praising and sending thoughts and prayers for their inability to read cognizant articles and books which do not have 5000 known mistakes in translation and interpretation.

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Yeah that’s pretty much how I got here. Ive had a couple Christian friends who would often ask me things about the Bible and religion in general, knowing how well educated in it I was. It was a minor shock to one of em when he realized I’m an atheist. It had never come up til one day it did, and he’s like “wait I thought you were a Buddhist?” Well yeah but there’s no god in Buddhism. “Oh...” and the questions stopped lol. He would often tell me I’m one of the smartest people he knows, so I don’t think the point was lost him though.

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That's what solidified my non belief!

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Yes! It is what put an end to my belief.

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Reading the bible from cover to cover made me stop being a Christian.

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Bible study was a big help in my de-conversion. I tell people all the time that the books of the bible were independent books. They contradict and disagree because they were not meant to be bound together as a story from beginning to end. You cannot tell believers that. Constantine wanted certain texts bound and used and others that seemed ridiculous to not be included. One common text would then work for all and the bogus books would soon be gone. The way it worked out left everyone with one great big bogus book.

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It was my last and final reading of the Bible that convinced me that the entire narrative was concocted. I was brought up in a religious (school / church / social) community, where we memorized Bible verses and entire chapters, and could rattle off the names of the 66 books of the (Protestant) Bible by the 2nd grade. And yet, what a relief it was to finally arrive at the logical conclusion that the entire thing is a crock of shit—works of fiction nowhere near as good as Homer.

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I can honestly say I've never read the Bible from start to finish. I've read a few lines or chapters here and there; I know the gist of a lot of the stories but not the fine details. I just don't give a shit about reading it; same for the Qur'an and Book of Mormon (I own all 3). I can't seem to make myself read any of them for too long when I know people actually believe these stories or would die over these outdated books.

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Yes. This is a widely know reality. Many studies support this observation.

I was going to say the same thing.
And add that studies have also shown that most 'believers' when asked what the ten commandments are, a huge percent don't know them all.

@AwarenessNow I can understand Jewish as being high there one the list. The torrah is essentially the old testament. And that is where the ten commandments are.

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As I'm not that well-versed in the bible, the bigger shock to me is when I ask people I know to be Christians general knowledge questions about the bible, but they have no answer. I could ask them who or what Leviticus is and they would have no answer, yet I am wrong for not following the very book that they know remarkably little about.

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That's why we are Atheists! We can see through all the bullshit .

Coldo Level 8 Aug 9, 2018

Right!

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They found out it's BS as a result of actually reading it.

godef Level 7 Aug 9, 2018
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Yep! Quite often atheists came from religious backgrounds & had at least some grounding in the bibble, & as they lost faith they often went to the 'source' for reinforcement, only to be further disillusioned! Many atheists see it as a part of history/mythology/psychology, & thus of some worth in that respect. & many have studied the bibble as defense against the "cherry-picking" many apologists do with their holy book!

further disillusioned or disbelief more deeply affirmed? lol

@chalupacabre Works both ways!

Well said and I mean both you and Asimov

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That is very sad. That we know more about there fairy tales than they do and have enough not to believe in them. I guess religious people have lower intelligence than we do.

Not necessarily the conclusion to be drawn. There is the matter of cognitive dissonance & confirmation bias (wishful thinking) that comes into play. These quite often totally bypass our reasoning centers.

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I was lucky, I wasn't brought up in a religious household, so essentially I've been an Atheist all of my life.

I never thought much about it until around around 2000, when the internet was on the rise, especially Youtube.
I watched a lot of debates about religion, Science, and creationism.

So I figured,I woul;dn't get involved in any debates until I read the bible all the way through.
The whole time I was thinking, are you serious, people actually believe this crap.

Same! I wasn’t never raised in a super religious home, but I decided to educate myself about the Bible so I would have the knowledge I needed to debate these Christians when they would threaten me with Hell while arming myself with the proper knowledge. . For one the Jews were first and they didn’t believe in Hell and it also wasn’t in the Old Testament. It wasn’t until Jesus himself came into the New Testament when Hell was mentioned. Christians came along and formed their own religion.

When I was very young I noticed (mandatory) church lessons did not reflect reality so I figured Church (religion) was nothing more then adults trying to control children with really stupid stories. It wasn't until I was in my later 20's that I realized many adults actually believes the BS they were trying to sell us. That was a very scary (as in profoundly sad) day.

@EmeraldJewel and then the Christians that did not like what certain Christians believed, broke away from their church to start another church based on their interpretation. The biggest example to me was with the Church of England; the king wanted a divorce but the Roman Catholic Church would not allow it. The “devine right of kings” was sufficient to allow him to do so.

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It reminds me of my job. They hire on kids fresh out of school with so much knowledge and no experience. I have no schooling, but have been in situations their instructors didn't tell them about. I stand back and watch...

I agree, there is simply put that there is nothing better than experiance. I don't care what school one has come from.

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Yep.

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Not me. Even when I was a kid and was taken to church it felt wierd to me.

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They only know the stuff they were spoon fed.

Good observation. During my "Conformation" class I made it a game - we were assigned topics to research so I would read the bible to find nonsense and I always found multiple contradictions in their "perfect holy book" leaving our weekly discussions with a "well that doesn't make sense so I guess I don't know". My favorite was the last day of conformation class then our instructor told us about the holy trinity. I replied. "That's just stupid." he responded, "I know but that's what they want us to teach you."

@NoMagicCookie Yeah, none of it makes any sense and they have a hard time coming up with explanations.

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