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Has anyone ever noticed that most atheist and agnostics know more about the Bible than most Christians do?

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I am told that I take the bible out of context. No I say. Read the words. Lol

Seems to me most Christians take the Bible out of context. They treat it like trail mix, keep the parts they like and throw out what they don't like.

It is easy to take some parts out of context. Not everything heinous that’s written about in the Old Testament is necessarily commanded or even condoned by the abrahamic god for example; but enough of it is to still make the same point lol.

@PalacinkyPDX I'm old enough remember the early days of backpacking with just two ingredients: good ol' raisins and peanuts (GORP). Today's trail mix is way too sugary for me. 😉

@Wurlitzer An interpretation that I've read is that going by old testament laws is basically saying that the sacrifice on the cross wasn't good enough to forgive those old sins. So basically if you accept Jesus as your lord and savior, old testament stuff kinda goes out the window. And yet Christians still love to cite Leviticus.

@Darla_Ann yeah Old Testament law is only applied literally by Orthodox Jews n even they have a couple extra books of clarification n detailing and updating n backpedaling to go along with it lol. Except when it comes to examples that are convenient like homosexuality of course. When it’s time to wear mixed fibers to shrimpfest with your tattoo of the cross after church it’s all good though.

@Wurlitzer exactly!

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I read the bible like it was a book of short fictitious stories.

Gohan Level 7 Aug 9, 2018

@Dave75 Indeed.

it is a bunch of short fictions stories no one ever bothered to proof read. There are to passages one says you have to hate your family to follow Jesus. Then another one says you have to love Jesus more than your family. Niether I can agree with!

@Dave75 except for the pornography, like Lot sleeping with his daughters, and Sarah being "loaned out" several times to gain flocks & grazing rights for hubby (i.e. her pimp), and David getting Uriah killed so he could screw Bathsheba, oh, and The Song of Solomon....shall I go on.

@Dave75 and so&so begat whatshisface, and whathisface begat whozit, and whozit begat...

@Notlost ooooohh, the juicy bits.......

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Yes. This is a widely know reality. Many studies support this observation.

I was going to say the same thing.
And add that studies have also shown that most 'believers' when asked what the ten commandments are, a huge percent don't know them all.

@AwarenessNow I can understand Jewish as being high there one the list. The torrah is essentially the old testament. And that is where the ten commandments are.

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Yep! Quite often atheists came from religious backgrounds & had at least some grounding in the bibble, & as they lost faith they often went to the 'source' for reinforcement, only to be further disillusioned! Many atheists see it as a part of history/mythology/psychology, & thus of some worth in that respect. & many have studied the bibble as defense against the "cherry-picking" many apologists do with their holy book!

further disillusioned or disbelief more deeply affirmed? lol

@chalupacabre Works both ways!

Well said and I mean both you and Asimov

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I was lucky, I wasn't brought up in a religious household, so essentially I've been an Atheist all of my life.

I never thought much about it until around around 2000, when the internet was on the rise, especially Youtube.
I watched a lot of debates about religion, Science, and creationism.

So I figured,I woul;dn't get involved in any debates until I read the bible all the way through.
The whole time I was thinking, are you serious, people actually believe this crap.

Same! I wasn’t never raised in a super religious home, but I decided to educate myself about the Bible so I would have the knowledge I needed to debate these Christians when they would threaten me with Hell while arming myself with the proper knowledge. . For one the Jews were first and they didn’t believe in Hell and it also wasn’t in the Old Testament. It wasn’t until Jesus himself came into the New Testament when Hell was mentioned. Christians came along and formed their own religion.

When I was very young I noticed (mandatory) church lessons did not reflect reality so I figured Church (religion) was nothing more then adults trying to control children with really stupid stories. It wasn't until I was in my later 20's that I realized many adults actually believes the BS they were trying to sell us. That was a very scary (as in profoundly sad) day.

@EmeraldJewel and then the Christians that did not like what certain Christians believed, broke away from their church to start another church based on their interpretation. The biggest example to me was with the Church of England; the king wanted a divorce but the Roman Catholic Church would not allow it. The “devine right of kings” was sufficient to allow him to do so.

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yep because we don't let others tell us what is in it. We don't follow blindly we have open minds. That is why we have more liberals than conservatives.

I was sent to Catholic school & they do not encourage bible reading. The church also insists that followers not interpret the meaning of anything in the bible, but only accept the church's interpretation.

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When I first "came out" to my religious friends in college, they actually pointed out that I knew more about the bible than they did.

Right! Many atheist or agnostics do know more. It’s actually pretty sad.

@EmeraldJewel That's the difference between thinking for oneself vs blindly accepting doctrine from a man on an alter.

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They only know the stuff they were spoon fed.

Good observation. During my "Conformation" class I made it a game - we were assigned topics to research so I would read the bible to find nonsense and I always found multiple contradictions in their "perfect holy book" leaving our weekly discussions with a "well that doesn't make sense so I guess I don't know". My favorite was the last day of conformation class then our instructor told us about the holy trinity. I replied. "That's just stupid." he responded, "I know but that's what they want us to teach you."

@NoMagicCookie Yeah, none of it makes any sense and they have a hard time coming up with explanations.

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I get told that quite often, and people are always surprised. IMO, they should be embarrassed - you believe this is the WORD OF GOD and yet my blasphemous godless self knows it better than you do! I agree with several posters - it is usually what convinces people what a crock it all is. Maybe that's why believers don't know it as well - they're afraid.

been told from birth scared of the truth. The bible even tells you the truth will set you free of the slave chains of gods and religions.

@benhmiller hahaha! How ironic!

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That's how many Christians are converted to atheism.

dkp93 Level 8 Aug 9, 2018
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That's why we are Atheists! We can see through all the bullshit .

Coldo Level 8 Aug 9, 2018

Right!

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That is very sad. That we know more about there fairy tales than they do and have enough not to believe in them. I guess religious people have lower intelligence than we do.

Not necessarily the conclusion to be drawn. There is the matter of cognitive dissonance & confirmation bias (wishful thinking) that comes into play. These quite often totally bypass our reasoning centers.

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It reminds me of my job. They hire on kids fresh out of school with so much knowledge and no experience. I have no schooling, but have been in situations their instructors didn't tell them about. I stand back and watch...

I agree, there is simply put that there is nothing better than experiance. I don't care what school one has come from.

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I have read Genesis, Exodus, Deuteronomy, Numbers, Leviticus, parts of Judges, Esther, parts of Job, Proverbs, Parts of Ezekiel, Jonah, Mathew, and Revelation. That's enough to know thats all a bunch of bullshit. I thought it was funny that the Xerxes guy from 300 was in Esther. It's a bunch of stupid shit.

I honestly think that one could gain some morality from the works of Theodor Greisle than the bible.

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Lol good one!!!

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I have long said that the moral majority/Christian right reads their Constitution with the same care and attention to detail as they read their bible.

Ozman Level 7 Aug 10, 2018

I may want to use your quote, it's the best summation of the religious right I've come across in a while! Great quote!

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Speaking purely personally I know very little about the bible picked it up a few times as a child - very boring - left it alone - I was left to make my own decisions and all the books I read from the library were really exciting not half stories with silly endings

Very boring indeed ! I’d rather read the Twilight series one book by one before reading that!

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The ones that were indoctrinated do at least...

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Omg! right i have read it 4 times cover to cover. most of my "christian " friends can't even name all the books

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Know your opponent best strategy you can develope.

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I love this and no matter how apparent you make this, the Bible Thumping, Gun Toting, Racist Bigots will be praising and sending thoughts and prayers for their inability to read cognizant articles and books which do not have 5000 known mistakes in translation and interpretation.

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Yeah that’s pretty much how I got here. Ive had a couple Christian friends who would often ask me things about the Bible and religion in general, knowing how well educated in it I was. It was a minor shock to one of em when he realized I’m an atheist. It had never come up til one day it did, and he’s like “wait I thought you were a Buddhist?” Well yeah but there’s no god in Buddhism. “Oh...” and the questions stopped lol. He would often tell me I’m one of the smartest people he knows, so I don’t think the point was lost him though.

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That's what solidified my non belief!

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Yes! It is what put an end to my belief.

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Reading the bible from cover to cover made me stop being a Christian.

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