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We aren't perfect here but we do our best.... Trumpanzees hate us...


Enlightened parents have been doing this for awhile now, let the kid grow up enough to have their own idea of what gender they are.

I completely agree. Thank you for commenting πŸ™‚


"A single standard of care is neither reasonable nor rational," - but isn't that what they were doing when these scalpel happy doctors starting cutting up these kids?

I can't speak with any authority, but seems to me that surgery should only be done in extreme cases (life/health issues), until the child is able understand the consequences and have input on the decision.


I am glad they specified corrective surgery. Surgery to provide adequate organ function like urine flow should be done but not to choose the gender one way or the other in these cases. My third cousin was chosen for as an infant and they chose wrongly.

I understand if it's too private, but are you able to comment on how that has affected your cousin?


Is intersex just another word for hermaphrodite? What a bizarre thing to spend tax dollars on. What is the percentage of people born with this affliction?

According to what I have read, it's about 1/100. The word hermaphrodite is now considered not scientifically accurate. I personally think it's a good thing to let the child choose when they are old enough to decide for themselves whether to change their own genitals.

1 of every 2000 births is intersex.

I went a little deeper since I admit I didn't do great research last night (I'm in grad school and have little time).
"We surveyed the medical literature from 1955 to the present for studies of the frequency of deviation from the ideal male or female. We conclude that this frequency may be as high as 2% of live births. The frequency of individuals receiving β€œcorrective” genital surgery, however, probably runs between 1 and 2 per 1,000 live births (0.1–0.2%).” Am. J. Hum. Biol. 12:151–166, 2000. Β© 2000 Wiley-Liss, Inc."

I'm reminded of these song lyrics by Todd Snider:
They say 65 percent of all statistics
Are made up right there on the spot
82.4 percent of people believe 'em
Whether they're accurate statistics or not
I don't know what you believe
But I do know there's no doubt
I need another double-shot of something 90 proof
I got too much to think about

@Roxi Would the tax dollars spent on the work and legal process spent on this have been better appropriated say like creating jobs?

@azzow2 Not the legislature's job to create jobs. And the amount spent on this trivial, and pales besides all the blatantly unconstitutional antiabortion crap many state legislatures routinely pass to clog up the courts. So yeah California.

@Druvius So you are saying this did not use tax dollars to pay the court the judge, legal staff the aids the supplies and resources. Did not say the legislator need to create jobs. The tax money used could have been better appropriate.

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