OK Atheists! I have a problem and need your help!
I live in SC and I have cashiers telling me all the time to, "Have a Blessed Day!" (It's spookie, I know!) I need to have a good comeback ready for them... What do you say when this happens to you?
Also, do you have a retort to, "Merry Christmas"? I don't really want to do battle on that one... in fact, I do get into the Xmas spirit and even decorate my house. (I like Santa, but no religious artifacts.) Shame on me! But seriously folks, I am curious about how y'all handle yourselves in public with the religiously inclined.
Thanks Guys and Gals! (Merry F'n Xmas! ha, ha)
Big Al
I celebrate the holidays and will say “happy holidays.” If someone says merry xmas or the blessed day BS, I’ll just nod my head in acknowledgment or say thanks... I’m not confrontational. It’s not worth it to me.. my kids kinda snicker though.
Hi Green!
Thank you! All the responses I got were all so nice!
I love you guys, and I'm sure you are all right about how to handle the, "Blessed Day BS". However, my only thought is that I feel like we are, in some way, capitulating to their religiosity by going along with it. By capitulating, it is as if to say... "Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK, ... You have your neurosis, and I'll have mine!" ha, ha, ha!!!!
BTW, tell your kids I love them for their "Snicker"!!! How old are they?
Big Al
@Alw314 they’re 12&15. I agree with your point however I think people do it out of habit and not malice. As my boys are usually with me, I want to show them how to be kind even when we have different beliefs. Being in the south, it’s kinda baked into the cake.
@Green_eyes "Baked into the cake???" You are too funny!!! Well, I have a few questions for you. Do you think we Atheists should try to eliminate religion? After all, don't you think that religious differences cause a lot of anguish and suffering around the world? (9/11 is a perfect example!)
But if we Atheists and Agnostics are the antidote to a religious world, how can we best get the message across in a gentle way? I will start another post with this question!
Big Al
@Alw314 religion may be the cause of a lot of problems but as a health care professional I cannot ignore the physiological strength I can bring to some. We cannot put ourselves in a position of judge, it makes us no better than they are when they persecute others for having different beliefs... it’s not just about 9/11.. what about that idiot missionary that endangered a whole community to “spread the word”. There’s fanatics in all faiths.
We do know agnosticism is growing slowly as the world becomes a more scientific place. Will it ever go away completely.. who knows??
@Green_eyes I have "faith" that reason will prevail in the long run. That, and a good sense of humor keeps me going and somewhat sane (in this insane world).
But believe it or not, you guys, all of you on this web site, are a breath of fresh air and y'all give me renewed hope in the future of men and women everywhere.
I am a retired Telecomm Support Engineer. What do you do in the Medical Industry?
Big Al
I just smile and nod... maybe say thank you.
This stuff never has bothered me. It's not like they're trying to lay a curse on you or anything.
OMG! Like a curse!?!!??
Just imagine a world where words actually had power (as if prayers really worked). And if someone said, "Have a Blessed Day" to you, that it was magical, and everything suddenly started going your way!"
Once people figured it out, everyone would be wishing (each other) to have a Blessed Day, and they would all win at Black Jack and the slot machines would soon empty!!! Las Vegas and Atlantic City would go broke! Sounds like a good plot for a feel good movie! But would such a movie encourage religiosity? I wonder.
Thanks BPB!
Big Al
@Alw314
I've a good friend who's a senior exec at Sony Pictures. I'll run this by him.
They're trying...
Here's a 100% fix but it does require prep work.
Keep an Alka Seltzer tablet in your pocket. When meeting religious strangers... Pop the tablet in your mouth, take a drink of water and then bite down on the tablet... When the foaming of the mouth starts... Tell them you are an Atheist!
Ha, ha, ha! How's that working for you???
Thanks for the virtual image!!! I love it!
Big Al
RR, I suppose you kill babies just for fun too!!! Ha, ha! OMG... you are too much! (and I crack myself up!)
I just say, "Thank you" and just take it as someone saying, "have a pleasant day". I didn't hear this till I moved to NC about 5 years ago.
Hi Pam -
Where did you move from?
Since you are now in NC, be prepared to hear it a lot! I'm really just an easy, out-going guy who is super friendly to all stripes of people from every corner of the globe. But I have had the, "Have a Blessed Day" thrown at me so much here in both NC and SC that it has turned me into a Militant Atheist !!!
I know they mean well, but it just shows me how many people are incapable of thinking for themselves! A Blessed Day??? Really? Who is going to bless it? People are so brainwashed by their religion it gives me the creeps!
I sometimes feel it is my moral and civic duty to "push back" in a polite way, just to let them know that not everyone is brainwashed. Maybe, just maybe, it will give them pause the next time they start to say, "Have a blessed day." and continue to perpetuate the lie.
Big Al
@Alw314 I grew up in Mass and raised my family in NH. Here in NC was the first time I heard " have a blessed day", it was the asst. principal of the school I worked at when I first moved here. I was shocked as in Mass growning up in the 70's we didn't say the pledge "under one god" portion in my public school. The religious can make you crazy.
To "have a good day," I respond, "thank you, but I have other plans," or alternates, " I already have." and my best is, " you have a great life." followed by their embarrassed giggle...why throw away the wish for one day ? And one day I was having a day where MORMON missionaries, darkening my door, and absolutely devoted to ruining my life...when one asked, what he could do to help me...I asked if he would suck my dick....for some reason they have NEVER RETURNED !
When I was in my teens, whenever JWs came to my door, I used to be polite and decline their overtures. If my Mom answered, she would slam the door in their faces as hard as she could. However, they kept coming back. Then one time, when they asked if I was christian, I said no, and they asked, why not? I said that religion is a mechanism for social control and went on to expound on my theories. Dumbfounded, they left and never came back. I learned that having confidence in one's ideas pays dividends.
@elperroloco Thanks for the story! That was fun!
Whenever I had JWs at my house I would engage them in rational arguments of all kinds, that is, if I had the time. My goal was not to convert them (as much as I would like that) but just to crack open the door to their closed minds if possible. You never know. If presented with reason often enough, they just may begin to doubt their insane beliefs and quit the church at some point in the distant future.
The last time I engaged a few on my front porch it was a beautiful spring day and I asked them if my Shitzhu dog, named "Tutu" was going to heaven. Of course they said no. And I asked, "Why not?" And they said Tutu did not have a soul. And again, I said, why not? And they said my dog does not have emotions! Obviously, they never owned a cat or a dog!!!
I think pets are all about love! They love you, and you love them back (or visa versa). I always liked the idea that all dogs go to heaven. Of course, being an atheist, I don't really believe in heaven, but it is such a nice idea because our pets are so good to us. I really did love Tutu. She was such a good dog!
R. Allan Worrell
To me Christmas is a holiday, and people should enjoy holidays, so why not "Merry Christmas!" I am quite happy with that.
As for "Have a Blessed Day!" — no one says that in these parts. (At least I haven't heard it.) But if I did hear it, I'd probably smile and say something like "Have a good one!".
Merry Christmas? Christmas is a Trojan horse. About a white guy. Adults tricking children. Then admitting they LIED. Only to LIE again. About another white guy. But this time it's the "truth" oh yah, by all means; Merry Christmas!
I don't handle religious stuff normally. If someone says 'Bless you' I don't reply but my think bubble says 'Whatever'. If I'm approached by a Jovo for example then I just tell them we have nothing in common, if they ask why then I tell them I'm an atheist, that ends the conversation.
The Christmas thing has nothing to do with any god, religion or anything else supernatural (Other than flying reindeer) so it's just about family, friends, food and specifically chocolate for me and I'll dish out Merry Christmasses to naybody that wants one
PS Merry Fucking Christmas to you too. Ho Ho Ho
Nothing to do with religion? It's called Christ mas!
I always seize opportunities to challenge the way people think, so I would probably quote Mark Twain or say something humorous or clever, such as, "I'll be walking across the river this afternoon. Come and watch."
Invite the news media! Everyone will be impressed! Tell them that "Walking on water is no big deal...and then walk out on the river and come right back!" Do it on Christmas! You will make National News!!! Have someone upload it to YouTube! It will go viral!
Say "thank you" and go about your day.
No need to be a dick.
I'm polite except to the homeless people that say "God Bless You" after I have just given them a food handout.I usually say something like - I don't believe in God but appreciate your thank you. You are more important to me than a non-existent God.
I think it is important, particularly when we are charitable, to let the recipient know we are not doing it because we are religious. Why? It restores a person's belief in his fellow man, apart from religion. In other words, you are showing you can be good (and have compassion) without religion!!! If the recipient has half a brain, they will get the message, and you have helped to lay the foundation for all of us!
Thank you!
Big Al
Dont feel the need battle strangers. Unless you are a law maker, if you feel the need bless me or give some other religious comment, whatever. I obviously do not say bless you for sneezes though and I get some dirty looks like how dare you let these demons invade my body! Haha
I dislike when people rush to bless me after I sneeze. Do you really think you saved my life? Perhaps I truly do need a blessing. Maybe a ride, or rent. Oh you were just being polite? I feel blessed! Thank you!
I get "have a blessed day" sometimes, even here in So. Cal. I just say "thank you", or "you have a good day too". It's just a mindless pleasantry after all. As for "merry xmas", I say that all December long to people I know, or even think, are Xtians. I'll admit that if I think someone is saying "merry xmas" not in a spirit of innocent good will but as a way of striking a blow against the mythical "war on xmas" I'm more likely to say "thank you, and happy holidays to you as well!" I can be so bad.
Dear Books... ( I love books too!)
Steve (see his remark above) made me realize that "Have a Blessed Day" is Proselytizing!!!
I do understand that after a while it becomes a mindless pleasentry, as you said. The important word that you used is "MINDLESS". What is so bad about that? It propagates the lie. It is as if they had just said, "God is Love" or "Jesus Loves You". Would you let those go as well?
The effect is the same. It does 2 things. First, the person tries to confirm their own belief by getting you to confirm it for them, and secondly, it demonstrates how pervasive the lie is and makes it seem "Normal and Right" thereby spreading religion in the mind of the public at large.
Don't play their game! Don't let them have it. Don't tell them they are OK to believe in blessings by saying "thank you" and moving on. You are doing them no favors by letting them keep their insane belief system.
The long term effect of religion may be the end of the world. Yes, I really believe that. We may end up killing everyone because, as George Carlin said, "We all have a different imaginary friend who lives in the sky." 9/11 was a symptom. There are people who take it seriously, and we are fighting them in the Middle East.
You know what freaks me out the most? It is the terrible way that women are treated by all religions, including Christianity. But many women are like the bird in a cage who has been kept their entire lives and who are afraid to leave the cage when the door is standing wide open. We, in the West have opened that door. Take it and condemn the cage! Tell the cage masters their world view of women is shit and that you will no longer play their game. Demand they respect you for having a brain!
I am a man who loves women. But I am just beginning to realize that the women who support Trump and put him in office are like those birds who want men to be strong and to take care of them. This is a battle of Philosophies over the proper roles of men and women.
This isn't JUST politics. We are fighting women's lib all over again, and at it's heart stands 2000 year old religions which wants to put women back in the cage!
Big Al
Merry Christmas I let slide. It's their holiday. But " Have a Blessed Day " is proselytizing. Proselytizing which the speaker presumes will go unchallenged because no one shall dare question the existence of the Almighty who is both able and willing to do the blessing. So, from now on, when the woman at Comcast or AT&T or whomever wherever says in closing, " Have a Blessed Day ", I'm going to respond, "And you have a damn good one !" Who amongst you shall join me ? Have a damn good day !
Steve -
You are so right!
"Have a Blessed Day" IS PROSELYTIZING, whether the person saying it realizes it or not!
I try not to let it go unchallenged. Why? I think it is important that we enlightened ones, not let the religious have their neurosis and continue to spread the lie.
Imagine if instead of "Have a Blessed Day" they would say something like, "Elvis is alive!" or "Prayer really works!" or "Ghosts are Real" and expect you to repeat it. No. I won't do it! I won't play their game!
Elvis is NOT alive.... Prayer does not work.. Ghosts are not real, and you can't improve someone's day by blessing it.
Steve I know YOU don't think I am extreme, but apparently a LOT of other people on this web site do. I think they just don't like to confrontation. I think they don't want to make waves. Why? Because not getting in someone's face is easy. They say, "Just say "thank you" and walk away." That's it! Let the person go on spreading the lie.
But I would challenge everyone reading this note to try, in a nice way, to ask the Blesser to please not repeat that message. Why? It is important for them to know that not everyone shares their belief. In other words, they need to know that some of us actually take offense to it. If we say nothing, then we are complicit in what they are doing!
Thanks Steve!!! Thanks for having a brain and using it.
Big Al
Since interactions with sttrangers are typically figurative, or can be viewed as such, and positive in nature (from your examples,) I would pass them off as the innocuous utterances they are. In brief, I would just "Thanks," "you too," or "Happy Holidays!"
"Have a blessed day!" May be a viewed as a regional form of. "Have a good day!" Similarly, "Merry Christmas!" Can just mean "Happy Holidays!" Because these exchanges are with unimportant people in your life, why make them more important than they are? Save explaining your beliefes for duscussions with people who are important to you.
I just take it as a meaningless pleasantry and say 'thank you'.
As long as no one is in a missionary mode I greet and reply to everyone with the same respect and kindness I always do. And if someone do, I explain them friendly that I am a not religious and don‘t have any interest into it. I believe in goodness, and practice my ideals as best as I can just for myself, and that‘s all.
A friend of mine invite them in his home, but they moved fast. All his apartment was full with inverted crosses, pentagrams and skulls.
A good comeback to both “Have a blessed day” and “Merry Christmas” is “Thank you”
I just usually say something like, "you too!" Get my change an move on. Not really worth arguing, especially wen I just want to pay for stuff and go.
If it's someone trying to preach, then I'll get rude and cut them off and say something like, "thanks, but I'm a heathen athiest, and I don't believe in the shit you're spouting".
As far as the Merry Christmas stuff, if it's Hanukkah, I'll say Happy Hanukkah, when it was the Solstice/Yule, I say that, I'm sure it catches them off guard, but I personally find it more fun to mess with them that way than saying Happy Holidays. When Kwanzaa starts, I'll say that.
It is probably more sincere than the non-engaged and soulless ‘Enjoy the rest of your day’ parting gesture at McDonald’s and other retail outlets.
I meet quite a few "religious " people daily and my response to their well wishes, which they are, is a simple thank you.. I don't need to be confrontational when theymare simply trying to be pleasent.
I am not an evangelical atheist going door to door preaching nothing.
Thy probably don't know to be mindful of this. Just carry on. It's not your job to set them straight. Unless they are being unkind there is no reason to object