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Why do men get so mad when they get rejected?

This is probably already a question circulating but I thought I'd ask myself.

I see this all too often, when a guy PMs a girl with some sort of compliment or come on, and girls can be as sweet as ever with their let down that they are not interested and the guy will come back with profanity and put downs, calling her ugly or fat. I don't get it. Please explain.

valerina 7 Mar 19
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Hell if I know.

@teslacoilsmith Are you saying you don't reject anyone? OR, are you saying you never get abusive/negative feedback after you reject someone? I'm very curious your POV.

@valerina I go through the same thing when I reject some guys sexual advances. I don't know why one minute they are nice, and then get hateful when I say no. Gay guys are sometimes the same as straight guys in this regard.

@Teslacoilsmith intetesting! Thanks for sharing!!

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I don't. I'm male, but if rejected by a female, I bid her peace, and move on. I'll also only accept a female that falls into my honor code. A proverbial needle in a crate of needles.

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With many men, it's a big let-down to get rejected. It makes them feel unwanted and insecure about their own masculinity. When they do what you say they do, they're doing what is known as 'sour-graping'.

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I think the reason why that is so prevalent to women is because they are dealing with a particular sample pool. A certain percentage of guys are very macho, aggressive, all into themselves, see women as only sex objects. They are in the bars and clubs looking for a piece of ass, and they work by volumn...testing a lot of women until one goes for it. That's why you deal with so many of them. And they think nothing of you as a person. Typically,when that "personality type" gets turned down, he will wonder what is wrong with this chick...can't she see that I am god's gift to women....and now my ego hurts so I must lash out to prove that I am indeed powerful.

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The key element in situations like this is time. As in, the finite amount of it we have on this earth.

If a guy cuts out on you and moves on after you've placed him in the friend zone, it's because every single second he spends with you beyond that point is a waste of his formidable years of peak sexual opportunity.

You have to understand that he already has guy friends to hang out with, shoot the shit, grab a couple of beers and catch a ball game. He's with you because he's romantically interested, and if you're only interested in just being friends, then you have nothing to offer regarding his needs that he can't easily have fulfilled somewhere else.

There's nothing sadder than watching some guy wander through the desert of the friend zone for weeks, months or even years hoping that some woman he's pining over will one day offer him an oasis which doesn't exist.

If you're really interested in keeping a guy you're friend zoneing as a friend, then you have a couple of options:

  1. Set him up on dates. Make it your mission to find him a mate.

OR

  1. If he's so unfortunately unattractive that the likelyhood of finding a mate is slim, then take him to the Bunny Ranch in Carson City, Nevada as a christmas or birthday present and get the poor guy laid for pete sake.

Friend zoneing a guy just so you can have somebody to bitch to about the guy that you are actually fucking is no act of friendship. It's an act of cruelty. And you're no friend if you do it.

Maybe it's just me but I like to get to know someone and become friends with them first before I decide to take the plunge and actually date them. I guess I'm not in a hurry. You make some very valid points though.

I would guess that most people probably know rather quickly if there is at least some potential for a sexual relationship to develop when they meet someone for the first time. Either the spark is there or it isn't.

Not that everybody jumps in to the water right away. Social and religious constraints can definitely play a role as to when a relationship becomes physically intimate, but it's generally pretty obvious early on which path the future holds.

Is this a person whom I might be interested in becoming sexually involved with, or is this just someone I wouldn't mind hanging out with? That's decided within the first two minutes.

@webbew1 hmm not me, man, I need to know we can have a good conversation, I have to see their hygiene habits lol! There is a checklist before I get sexually involved. 😛

@webbew1 See this is why too often guys get hooked up with the wrong woman. They don't bother to get to know her beyond the surface.
Take a page out of a woman's book, hey our clocks are ticking too and the shelf life historically isn't what a man's is, we don't want to waste time either which is why we want to know you better before taking the plunge out of "friend zone".
How are you under pressure?
When something throws a wrench in plans?
Something as simple as reaction to say, spilling something- is that going to ruin your evening?! If it would , does that mean after the dust settles into relationship-ville that sort of thing is going to ruin your week?

And on & on. It's not enough to simply have a a surface attraction and hope everything falls into place. If this is the typical M.O. of men no wonder so many complain that after marriage the sex stops, because women often lose their zeal for sex when angry, or tired from shouldering mundane things they'd like help with...

When a guy complains about a sexless relationship I always wonder what he did to piss the woman off so badly that she quit being attracted to him.

[I] had a rather pitiful 1st time "date" the other day with someone I consider a years long "friend" . It was so unfortunate, the vibe, that I doubt I'll ever entertain going out with him again....EVEN as a friend.

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Only insecure guys are prone to do that. Admittedly, that's a lot of guys. The rest of us have a more mature and realistic understanding of how this works - not going to match up all the time. Shrug and move on until I find someone that I do match up well with. That's really all anyone on these sites can and should do.

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If that kind of thing happened to me, and it has (I liek guys too), I just tell them they only just confirmed my judgement(s), that they are not really a good person or the kidn of peson I want in my life... even for one night. (add, edit or delete parts as appropriate).

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In my long years of experience, it is not just the men who get mad. Women do too. But women have usually a circle of other women to bounce off. these feeling Men mostly do do not, or would not ask for advice from their buddies, so the reactions are mostly different., stupid and severe.

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I'm guessing the posts you have been looking at in this regard are not done by particularly aware people. Hang out with a better crowd.

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I personally do not engage in this type of behavior, but maybe I have indulged in something akin to it, and I have certainly felt the feelings. So, here is the step-by-step breakdown.

So, first of all, for a man to even approach a woman signalling some kind of desire, is a great risk. For exactly this reason: the woman will often be unreceptive to his attention (for various reasons). Every guy knows this, and many men, perhaps somewhat unrealistically, expect women to be aware that they are, indeed, taking a risk.

And rejection hurts-for it's not something superficial, it's an indictment of their essential being-they are not worth your time. That's a tough pill to swallow, especially when men's egos are fed their entire lives (here's looking at YOU, Mom). Men aren't generally taught how to express their negative feelings constructively, so many men (myself included) express emotional pain as anger. In particular, when a man is told he is sexually undesirable, he seeks to even the score by attacking what he perceives to be the focus of her own sexual desirability, her beauty.

It's like the dating equivalent of: "You can't fire me, I quit!".

I am not excusing this behavior, but you asked for an explanation.

You have not contributed anything we didn't know.

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I don't know why the guys get mad....but their despicable reactions prove the girls were right in rejecting them.

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I’m sure it’s not all men that do that . Only the immature ones with no code of honor or a real understanding who and what a man should be like . Plus , people get rude and fake online rather quickly. Virtual Social Life warps a lot of people’s psychological composition.

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That's the sad part...you don't know who the scary ones are until you reject them....

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My answer in that situation is always: " Fuck you, dude. Crawl back under the bridge where you come from." That ends it.

@Litefoot555 do you not realize that spinliesel was saying that her replie to rudeness was to tell them fuck you? So she was not instigating the rudeness just giving it back to him.

@Litefoot555 You bring my next question to the plate: Is a woman obligated to like any man who approaches her? Somebody told me "Yes, she is."

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We should be happy to be rejected. "I'm not interested" well "yahooie" I'm ugly! I'm boring, I'm poor,or this"too short"!!!!!! Actually I've turned rejection around. I'm my mind, I am being complimented

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Disappointment that the time invested on interacting did not result in a semen receptacle.

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Some men are like this, I doubt most are immature enough to be blatantly aggressive. If nothing else men are taught NO can turn into yes bc women want to feel pursued and like the chase. That's not a defense of stalkers, it's just reality for human mating rituals. I've been pursuing a woman who said she didn't want to hike with me for a few weeks bc she continues to be outright flirty...

Humans generally aren't very mature. Men in many societies are taught anger is an appropriate reaction for almost anything. Heck some women like it when men get upset and compete for them.

Plus as others have said anger and fighting for mates seems common in nature, women acting coy is also natural.

Putting yourself out there is risky, rejection isn't fun and doing the rejection isn't fun for most either and few have the tools to process emotions well.

Personally, I can often tell if a woman wants me to ask her out although I'll never know about women who wanted me to but I was too clueless to notice. I think most women over 30 can flirt well enough they mostly have men they're somewhat interested in pursuing them and can give a polite brush off that most men will respect? Of course there's outliers in both genders.

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One part sour grapes, one part the fragility of the male ego, one part lashing out because men are shown in our society that they're expected to be dumb and childish and aggressive so being dumb and childish and aggressive is acceptable. Plus traditional social rules governing gender relationships multiplied by the male perception of self worth tied to masculinity by way of ability to attract a targeted mate at will AND the overarching (toxic masculinity warning) insistence that a 'man' should be able to get what he wants, all he has to do is keep trying, don't take no for an answer, and Make. It. Happen.

That's a great point. It seems like many romance movies or romantic comedies hinge on a guy not taking "no" for an answer.

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I had a guy threaten to kill my mother after I requested a video chat. I had a feeling that I was being catfished, men can waste our time with lies and bs (not always, but it's often). We need to be smart and weed out the jerks. How many women sleep with a man and then get ghosted. So we take time to ask more questions and wait to see what kind of person they are. I tell guys straight up, I don't want to date if you have younger kids. Not each time, but normally, the first response to that is I need to work on myself, I'm ugly, or fat anyways. Well, why are you asking me out? That's what you get for saying no to some men ("some" men, not all guys act this way). Oh, if you don't have sex, talk dirty, or send sex picts they will ghost you, anyways. So...you are not alone. Reasons why, women might be expected to say yes to everything and everyone. If we can't say yes, we are a bitch. Oh well, life goes on! Keep your head up girl 💖

Thank you so much. It's so true and yes not all men but a lot of times these things occur. It sucks and can turn a woman bitter real quick. So again, thank you and you keep yours up as well. ?

That is so freaking common. I had a guy threaten to rape me within an inch of my life when I didn't respond to his message online. I feel like real world behavior has been a lot better but online I almost expect to be abused.

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It goes both ways.

Agreed. Does it happen a lot to you?

I wouldn't say a lot, but I've definitely been there.

I'm sure some women do get really nasty but I would say it's not uncommon for me to get death threats, rape threats or just called nasty names. "It goes both ways" is accurate technically but it paints a picture of equality which I'm pretty sure isn't the case.

@klang72 I do not believe for a fucking minute you are getting inundated with threats of death and rape. It goes both ways is more than accurate, it is fact.

@Sticks48 You can believe whatever you want to but if you read more of this thread you'll find that treatment isn't uncommon. You have to remember you were dating before the internet and things have changed a lot.

@Sticks48 But you're here I assume as a man of science so don't take my word for it. I invite you to make yourself an online dating profile with a picture of a woman and start talking to men and eventually rejecting them. Record your data and let us know.

@klang72 On line is all bullshit. If they don't know where you live it doesn't matter. People say shit on line because of anonymity. All this crap on line is not the real world. I am talking face to face rejection, not this make believe world.

@klang72 This isn't the real world. This is whatever people want to pretend to be.

@Sticks48 That's probably exactly what the men doing all that BS think. But I'm a real person with real feelings and having a computer in between doesn't change that. I had a guy use my photo to find my facebook to find my place of work and show up there. I was a kindergarten teacher at the time so it really freaked me out. I could probably find you with not all that much effort. (I never would because that's messed up- just to be clear.) People have been fired for what they say online. Your online persona is an extension of yourself, especially when you attach things like your picture to it. Just be careful what you say. (Again, not a threat. Just friendly advice.)

@Sticks48 Also- is your argument that it's perfectly fine to threaten people online because online isn't real? Just trying to figure out what you're saying here.

@klang72 You don't have to be on line. if you are on line you don't have to put out any more info than you want to. You see it here all the time. Say what you will, this is not real life. Hence the use of "IRL" continuously online. If this is a persons "real world", they have some very deep issues. This is meant to be a tool not a lifestyle.

@klang72 I'm not saying it is fine. I am saying it is to be expected because of anonymity. People get awfully brazen when you are not face to face. I see people on here all the time saying shit they would never say if they were face to face with people. Face to face these men probably would not even approach you to ask you out. I am not saying women don't have to be careful, but that is a different subject.

@Sticks48 What are you actually trying to say? You're avoiding answering my questions. If women get harassed online it's their own fault for being there? Is it ok to threaten people because it's "not real"? If you had a daughter or a wife and she was online and some stranger was sending her messages saying he was going to find her and kill her would that be cool with you? Should women have to give up using the internet because of the behaviors of men? Because that's what it sounds like you're saying and I'd like some clarification.

@klang72 No, you just want to argue. You can walk down a dark alley at night if you so desire and live with the consequences. There can be consequences to putting too much personal information online. That is up to each individual to decide. You aren't going to change it, I'm not going to change it.It is what it is. You can get involved online as much or as little as you like. As with most things in life, there are tradeoffs. You have to decide which tradeoffs are worth it.

@Sticks48 Just because I'm not letting what you're saying go, doesn't mean I just want to argue. I'm going to call you out just like I'm going to call out any guy perpetuating rape culture and victim blaming. Your "dark alley" comment makes your stance pretty clear. You've really made an example of yourself.

@klang72 good idea. People who have commented here should run a test such as that. From both sides. I have to say, vulgarites often come to my profile in a first message from men. Many times a first contact is a horrible personal attack based on my photo or a coment about why i am single. I always block them with no reply. But why would some one go out of their way to attack someone whom they didnt even know. Baffles me.

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If i could explain I would be a wealthy self help author. Its not just what you've experienced.

Haha yes you would.

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What the?! Through random happenstance, I'm writing an essay on this at this very moment. I'll post to Agno when I'm done with it. It's a combination of issues, primarily related to toxic masculinity and horrible chauvinism.

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Because most men are fucking psychotic in a masculine/I deserve all my eye sees way. It's baffling. But being the polar opposite of that, I've learned that most of the women I have met want some form of that "kind" of man. Not to say my sample of interactions is grounds for real debate, but in my particular circumstances and experiences, when I'm uninterested or the other party is not, I'll be questioned as to why it doesn't seem to matter to me. It's a weird Dynamic. I love people for people, and if someone does not "like" me back I'm simply okay with that because I'm okay with myself..which many men are not.

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It happens in both directions. I've had women get downright nasty with me for not accepting their advances. I think there are jerks on both sides of the gender aisle. Most men handle it pretty well, as do most women. Most men are used to rejection. If he doesn't take it well, that just proves your judgment of character is spot on. He's someone you really didn't want to be involved with.

Duke Level 8 Jan 3, 2019
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It goes both ways. Men in general are used to rejection since we are expected to, and the vast majority of the time, have to make the first overture. This fact skews the numbers. Women can get just as nasty as men when rejected. Women are just not put in that position nearly as often as men. It isn't even close.

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