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I was reading, Why Women Need Freedom from Religion and came across this bible verse. Color me shocked and surprised at that last bit!! Somehow that was never preached from the pulpit.

ashortbeauty 8 Mar 21

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Wow

thanks for website

Love that site.

Wow. I knew some of that, and have known the gist for a long time, but to have it spelled out is really awakening. Thank you for that resource. Now to figure out how to get it out there....

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Frankly I scratch my head that any woman would embrace this book. The same for gays and the same for blacks as both of those groups were also victimized by those waving it around as if it were the definitive law.

@Jsands I think the way it spoke of women was one of the reasons I became an instant atheist, that and the nonsense found just in Genesis alone was enough and I was 11 years old then.

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Women are the biggest antagonist in the Bible. Eve was the first.

I prefer Lilith.

Actually, if you go back to the Talmud, Lilith was the 1st woman. Go back further & you find out god had a wife.

About Lilith
[google.com]

Only because men wrote the book and used it to make women into second class citizens.

The ceiling of the Sistine chapel has Lilith depicted as a Naga. That's how the serpent was portrayed until the 15th century.

@Reignmond the legend of Lilith! she's my idol!

@Reignmond yes, at least she stood up for herself as an equal.

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The King James version of the bible is notorious for it's misogyny.
Previous translations didn't have nearly the same level of hateful rhetoric toward women.
That's another thing about christianity that the "christians" don't know.
Every time the bible was translated from one language to another, every time there was
another rewrite, it was written to advance the agendas of whomever was doing the financing. They know so little of the history of their own religion and "holy" book, it's fucking pathetic.

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They only follow the parts of the bible that they want to.

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Sounds hateful!

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Religion tends to be patriarchal and Judaic Christian religious beliefs are especially so. Wicca offers a more female orientation but also comes with a fair amount of crap attached. Stay independent, question authority and form your own beliefs based upon mutual respect, kindness first and tolerance of others. Put love before hate and help before harm. Leave the place better than when you found it.

Exactly why I made my honor code. 😉

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More misogyny and creepiness from the bible.

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One of the many things I dislike about "sacred" books like the Bible. Looks OK on the surface, but the deeper you dig, the more horrendous bullshit you find. I actually got a Bible app to read just so I can see what I find. It seems that religious folks either don't know enough about their book to be familiar with horrific stuff like this, or worse, they just don't care.

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Yep! This kind of philosophy in the Abrahamic faiths is why I think (please forgive me) women are retarded when it comes to religion. Why, without any proof of God being real, would anyone choose to believe in and worship a God that basically thinks you are shit.

Not just women. The Abrahamic god thinks everyone is shit, which is why he sent Jebus to commit suicide by proxy -- and scapegoat his own fuck-ups. Yet, all U.S presidents have said and continue to say: "God bless America". The real question is why would men create a religion that condemns everyone, with women taking the brunt of the abuse?

They are brainwashed from birth and we know for a fact few Christians sit down and really read the Bible and lets face it, the phrasing in there is not the English they are used to and therefore I doubt many understand it.

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The New Testament treats women as 2nd class citizens.

Ephesians 5:22-24 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
22 Wives, be subject to your own husbands, as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body. 24 But as the church is subject to Christ, so also the wives ought to be to their husbands in everything.

Romans 7:2 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
2 For the married woman is bound by law to her husband while he is living; but if her husband dies, she is released from the law concerning the husband.

1 Corinthians 14:34-35 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
34 The women are to keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, just as the Law also says. 35 If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak in church.

1 Timothy 2:11-14 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
11 A woman must quietly receive instruction with entire submissiveness. 12 But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. 13 For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve. 14 And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression.

Titus 2:3-5 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
3 Older women likewise are to be reverent in their behavior, not malicious gossips nor enslaved to much wine, teaching what is good, 4 so that they may encourage the young women to love their husbands, to love their children, 5 to be sensible, pure, workers at home, kind, being subject to their own husbands, so that the word of God will not be dishonored.

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NIV version:

16 The Lord says,
“The women of Zion are haughty,
walking along with outstretched necks,
flirting with their eyes,
strutting along with swaying hips,
with ornaments jingling on their ankles.
17 Therefore the Lord will bring sores on the heads of the women of Zion;
the Lord will make their scalps bald.”

It leaves out "discover their secret parts, but the ESV says: "and the Lord will lay bare their secret parts."

It seems that the last line means "that God would humble and punish them; that they who so adorned themselves, and who were so proud of their ornaments, would be divested of their joyful attire, and be borne naked into captivity in a foreign land." [biblehub.com]

A rather harsh punishment for wearing tinkling bells and flirting, especially from a religion that interprets "an eye for an eye" as the punishment should not be greater than the crime.

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This quote make zero sense. It's just word salad.

A lot like the rest of the bible.

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WTF??

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Discover their secret parts? What a pervert.

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I must admit that I am ignorant, as to what those Bible verses means? My interpretation seems to be...that proud women, will get put in their place! They are not approved of! This is precisely why I stopped reading the Bible...the same as I don't expose myself to porn and hate speech! All of it seems to come from a period of time, when certain people wallowed in a kind of insanity! I can't see usefulness toward my better nature, in any of that stuff!

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How one-sided that was.

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Groups as FFRF and the Humanist have shown that a large number of atheists have become so from reading the bible from cover to cover. It is said the bible is the most popular book in the world but, what is not said is it is the least read.

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I transposed this just for the men to have a gander at

Burn the son!
Cut off his hand!
Expose his private parts!
Male Inferiority!
Jesus can kill children !
gods o.k .with abortion!
Kill warlocks!
Rape my son!
Silence the man!
Stone the man!
Men submit yourselves!
men shall not speak!
mens sorrow !
Rip up men who make women pregnant!
Wicked men!

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whhhooohhh! naughty lord! watnon eyes and tinkly feet is this observer 'tripping'

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It’s a wonder why any woman would choose to enslave themselves.

Marz Level 7 Mar 22, 2018
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The versions in the Jerusalem Bible are pretty similar.

I think some of the prophets had problems.

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probably the original text was kind of staid and boring so they had to juice it up a bit.

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How is that to be interpretted...in layman's terms?

Women with earrings, high heals, and sexy looks they gave out were to be punished by making them go bald and basically raping them

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