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"What about black-on-black violence?"

...my Republican hairstylist asked. She thought she stumped me as a Democrat. Arriving home, I looked it up and got Brietbart, Fox News, infowars and other racist websites.

Then I looked up: "What do black people say about black on black violence?" I was delighted to find The Root website. I printed this article and will give it to her tomorrow.

"According to the FBI’s uniform crime-reporting data for 2016, 90.1 percent of black victims of homicide were killed by other blacks, while 83.5 percent of whites were killed by other whites. While no life is inconsequential, the statistical evidence shows that—just as for blacks when it comes to black-on-black crime—whites are mostly victimized by other whites, with the vast majority of white murders committed by whites. This is because most victims of crime personally know their assailants. And while this is a truth across racial boundaries, no one ever talks about “white-on-white crime.”

Furthermore, the Bureau of Justice Statistics’ arrest data analysis tool shows that less than 1 percent of blacks overall (about 2 percent of black men) commit a violent crime in any given year. This means, factoring in interracial violent offenses, 99 percent of black men do not commit black-on-black crime.

Generally speaking, research shows that poor people commit the most crime: According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, during the period from 2008 through 2012, “persons in poor households at or below the federal poverty level (FPL) (39.8 per 1,000) had more than double the rate of violent victimization as persons in high-income households (16.9 per 1,000) ... The overall pattern of poor persons having the highest rates of violent victimization was consistent for both whites and blacks.”

Knowing this, the small difference in crime rates can easily be explained by income disparity. Maybe the question should be why are such a large percentage of black people poor?

[theroot.com]

LiterateHiker 9 Nov 16
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Yes the real question is how do we lift people out of poverty. That is what will reduce crime. I say the answer is democratic socialism.

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US has an obsession with black/white. Sure there is prejudice based on skin tone, but primary issue is surely poverty? As whites make up less than 10% of the global population it says a lot more about the bastards who are doing the controlling! They want to maintain divisions amongst the poor.
Rich nations can fix poverty, but seem to prefer not to as it gives them more control of the needy/ Fucked up world,
Black or white skin... one race. Separated by 2% DNA from gorillas. Get over it and stop seeing a difference between people.

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This pretty much sums it up:

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Sad as this situation is, it is very helpful in my upcoming report. As for the final line, I will get back to you on that, so please remind me as it is very important. My preliminary look at the evidence appears to show two types of 'racism' at work. One which keeps blacks at the near bottom of the heap through classic oppression by whites. The other is by blacks, who ostracise blacks who try to improve their lives. Both need a major change in American culture. I'll be comparing the UK with the USA.

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My response has always been, "what about it?"

You know, how Christians say, "a watch means a watchmaker." Me: "yeah what about it?"

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I love statistics. One has to really look at what the data is actually telling you. Most of the time I hear statistics discussed in increases over last years data. Math is good one just has to know what they are reading with it.

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excellent informative articale, Seems poverty leeds to more crime because of just trying to stay alive which does not leave much time for education ,never ending circle ,If the poverty is adressed ,I am sure the education level will certainly increas accordingaly

Tied in with the issue, is that school funding is tied to local property taxes. Poor areas have poorly funded schools.

Throw in Merton’s Strain Theory and criminality is inevitable. The focus needs to be on suitable and effective interventions by the Youth Justice System, along with a political will to create real opportunities in life.

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Two reasons stand out. First, we must remember that white slave owners and the southern white population created a Black culture in which education was devalued (even dangerous) and in which it was not wise to aspire to anything -- and enforced those norms with violence. Second, Whites blocked economic opportunity for Blacks and reinforced the norm that it was dangerous of aspire.

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This is a wonderful article/abstract on a deep analysis of racism and the African american experience.

[muse.jhu.edu]

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You are very mistaken. There a huge difference in crime rates. Also a large difference in IQ. 70% of black children are born out of wedlock.its a sad mess. Message me and I will tell you why.

The IQ data I came across, for this side of the Atlantic pond, was that the racial group with the highest median figure was Asiatic. ( by about 3%)
However, for the extremes (high or low) there was NO appreciable difference.

I can't imagine what you would say to that.

@OwlInASack No genetic basis for IQ. No one group is smarter or dumber than another from a genetic standpoint.

@OwlInASack the ignorance is astounding. We must do a better job of science education.

@Petter, @OwlInASack here you go this is from wikipedia's graph.

@PinkyandtheBrain As I remarked. At the extremes sll races are equally intelligent or dumb. But the MEDIAN for each race shows Asians slightly ahead. This, of course, could be attributed in large degree to cultural attitudes towards study and learning.

@PinkyandtheBrain there are many criticisms against the validity of IQ tests.... a better measure of intellgence would be Gardner's multiple Intelligences. [verywellmind.com]

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Poverty is the root, not race or ethnicity. Multi-cultural societies that have little to no poverty have no violence issues. Desperate people will do things you can not imagine, so the question for me is why do we allow government to assist in creating poverty so the predator class has lots of cheap labor to exploit? Plenty of poverty to go around since the Democrat Party went Wall Street with the Clintons and exorcized the Labor Democrats who used to fight for unions, higher wages, healthcare, basically a fair deal to keep the Economy strong.

Thank you someone else that understands. The war on poverty means welfare single mothers taking advantage of the government outgoes a father and now with blacks voting Democrat for more assistance This is one of the major causes.

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Ive known about these statistics for a while now, but its nice to see that you did your research...👍

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Institutional and societal racism. I remember even in the sixties separate water fountains and bathrooms. In nineteen seventy one I was in a BBQ joint in Elgin, TX where black folks had to sit at a bar facing a wall to eat there. That isn't that long ago. You treat people like third class citizens and much worse for centuries, depriving them of both education and opportunity, you can't expect them to turn this around in a couple of decades. Even now, look at the racism that has reared its ugly head with the election of trump. I thought we had come much farther than we have. Very sad and very disappointing.

Thank you! Fabulous answer.

@GreatNani Thank you.

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I already knew this since it is a tired line used by Murican racists in every fbook group I am in (majority of members are Americans) and someone once stated this fact. Ever since then, I always reply to the person and what about white on white crime? The majority of whites are killed by other whites but you never bring up or talk about that, do you? Racist whites (notallwhitepeople) are damn good at deflection though and change the topic or focus on my tone cuz the facts stump them..... that or they bring up other racist crap about intelligence or thugs or whatever else they have in their arsenal.

ooh look someone already brought up intelligence in the form of IQ tests, to put his subtle racism on display.... predictable ain't they? 😉

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An excellent interpretation of the data.

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Good question

bobwjr Level 10 Nov 16, 2019
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