The problem is most people think FEMININE and FEMINIST are one and the same. A woman can be both...and the art resides in how to deliver each one.

So why do you get to decide what feminism is? If she wants to walk around naked, she should be able to!

@GoldenDoll raming naked is not a part of feminism. Its a Vugerity which infects feminism.
Feminism impoves the worst scenario of women not let them allow to roam naked.
Clothing and culture must be decent not to be vulger.
Men also don't have right to roam naked on the public place.
We are human with brain not animal.

@GoldenDoll and i didn't decide what feminism is.
But international personalities of feminism decided it.
They didn't support nudity in feminism.
But i can see the only meaning of feminism is nudity,sex,and alcoholism its not a life.
Life is beyond such type of things.

@DUCHESSA somethings may be different but self-respect and serve better for the society are essential elements of humar character.
Nudity and yankee culture are not the part of feminism.
Feminism is a holy thing which can not be bargain with any deflative culture.
I support women education,they have right to work and have right to walk by equal shoulder with men.
But vulgarity with feminism is not Huminatarious.

@FAIZ Holy? Mate you're on the wrong site. And thanks so much for your approval for women to be educated - how very gracious (& mediaeval) of you.

@FAIZ Maybe us girls should all wear burkhas. You've got a long way to go before you're free of your obnoxious religion.

@FAIZ - You are very restricted in your views - I hope you use this site to educate yourself and realise that what you believe just might not be true!

@FAIZ - You can't just say stuff and expect people to believe it - back it up with some facts,evidence, links. Your type of comments are what were trying to avoid here.

@FAIZ Somehow I pity you.

@GoldenDoll and i am not a wrong and nobody has right to decide it.
Women empowerment must be encourage but vulgarity with men and women must not be allowed.

@GoldenDoll i don't promote burkha tradition i am against it.
Infact my mother don't wear it.
So its a rumor of ur thoughts,whatever.

@GoldenDol if i am not restricted,i might not be using this sight.
Try to understand there is is thin difference in modernism and vulgerity.
I am only against vulgerity. Wearing jeans,tops etc its okay but intentionally roaming around on a public is not adequate madam.
If my daughter roams arround than i will feel that i i educate her to do something better for the world. She may change the world. Roaming naked will change the world.
Ideology of marie curie,preeti lata wadedar,kalpana chawla,klara zetkin may change the world,they didn't roam naked.
U must first read them.they were true feminist.

@GoldenDoll i don't pay attention to the response of my comments.
First thing mam,please don't thing anything wrong about me. I am not a such person which u are thinking about me, i am not a orthodox person.
I want to encourage everything but without vulgerity.
Everyone has right to wear everything but at the right place.
For instance if i roam naked arround to my parents than it will be not adequate they are my parents and i should respect them.
Try to understand what do i want to say?
Please don't take pre requisite about me.
A single comment can not judge my whole personality.
Whatever nice to talk to u, you are good lady. And i am not a wrong person ?

@DUCHESSA mam u are taking it wrong. What do i convey? U must understand.

@FAIZ Bye

@duchessa ?

Do you know of a woman attracted to a guy but he wasn't attracted to her and, then, he ridicule her, laughed at her with his male friends, made negative comments about her looks.....was he embarrassed to be seen even talking to her? Do you know of a woman never invited out for not being a looker? I have heard / seen men behaving in such manner. If you did as well, you know why women won't approach a man.

@duchessa Men are treated this way by women as well, but we have to keep trying if we want to meet someone we like.

@Roadster I heard -never seen- of women treating men disgustingly....but I don't think it reaches the same level some men treat women.

@DUCHESSA I have actually seen a woman spit her drink on a man who approached her in a bar. So yes women can be as cruel as men.

@kensmile4u Did he say to her "Do you want to go to bed with me? "

@DUCHESSA No he asked her if she would like to dance with him. I was on stage playing the music they were all dancing to. i watched the whole thing happen. He left because he was so embarrassed. I have seen both men and women act incredibly cruel to each other from my birds eye view on stage.

@kensmile4u Well, she was an ass...I have heard men telling their friends they would never ask a lady to dance unless she was a looker...I have seen not so attractive ladies seating at the bar -alone- because men didn't care for their looks. I have hear / seen many of my students ridiculing their female classmates for not being # 10...and the ironic side of things is most of the men rejecting the ladies were fat / bold / not handsome....

@duchessa You have clearly only seen one side of the story. Men do the most of the asking so they also get most of the abuse when asking. Many women are quite gracious, but many are kind of horrible.

@DUCHESSA I have seen and do understand that there are two types of rejection. There is the interactive rejection that mostly men have to endure. Then there is the rejection of indifference that mostly women who wait hoping to be asked but never get approached endure. Usually as the night goes on alcohol and a good band helps to break the Ice.

@Roadster No, I have seen both sides....What I don't understand is the need to insult / attack the person asking for a dance / date. I don't understand, either, why most men ignore the ladies who are not lookers.

@kensmile4u No, is not always the case that a drink and good music break the ice.

@DUCHESSA That's why I chose the words usually helps. It doesn't always help everyone.

Im "older" and ive never put up with any rubbish about stereotypes. So please adjust yours.

I have to disagree! I'm older and do not consider the norms of my youth to be appropriate for today. I've evolved with the times and anyone I would even consider having a relationship with should have also.

@GoldenDoll This whole post is about stereotypical roles changing. I am speaking from experience. When I date an older women they almost always expect me to pay for everything. When I date younger women they offer to pay for half of the meal, the tip, or offer to buy some drinks. I have read a lot of literature on this topic that supports my position.

[bostonglobe.com]

@BeeHappy Just google the question. Do older women still expect men to pay for their dates?

[wsj.com]

@kensmile4u, ok, that might be most women but it's not me and never has been. I've always been an independent person. I will turn down an invitation if I can't pay my way. Having said that, IF someone offers to cover the cost I won't usually refuse and I will express my gratitude a minimum of twice. But that's me and I believe I'm in the minority. ?

@BeeHappy Thanks for being in the minority and thanks for being you!

@kensmile4u You're welcome. I couldn't be anyone else! Lol ?

Many years ago, when I came to this country, I enrolled in college. Because my first name is gender neuttral ( by strange American rules) I received a letter from Selective Service demanding that I register with their agency. I ticked all the right boxes on the form , not a citizen, not male, not interested in war mongering (just kidding, not a choice on the form), sent it in and lived happily after after. I wonder if this is still a thing?

@Spinliesel it's still required of all 18 year old males.

@farmboy2017 I am surprised. In many countries, equality means exactly that, equality.

@Spinliesel We have selective service and selective equality.

@farmboy2017 But selective service has not actually applied or been enforced since the 70s so why bring it up as if it is a real modern day threat?

@psychdemifemgal it's still the law. An enforceable law at that.

I'm sincerely curious how it works in life and in your relationships to not "give a toss what other people think" in terms of relationships -- in real life, one-on-one, friendships, and even this online community.

It strikes me as odd ---and, truthfully, as self-centered and closed off -- how many people (not just you) want to participate in this community, but ultimately treat it as a one-way street. One way in that they give "sermons," and "drop their two cents" and move on without reading others' input.

How do conversations happen, and how can friendships - platonic or romantic - develop (in real life and in an online community) if too many people enjoy just talking and not listening or interacting?

@BlueWave There are topics where I am interested in the views of others. This is simply not one of them. I apologise if I have offended you.

@Palindromeman I am not at all offended, but thank you for your thoughtfulness. ? I truly just don’t understand the mindset of some people not wanting to actually interact with others, and instead just want to give their opinions and move on.

You did not specifically say that you didn’t give a toss what others think on this one specific topic. The way I read your statement was that you, in general, don’t give a toss what other people think. Did I misunderstand?

@BlueWave In short, yes, you misunderstood but I contributed by being less than clear. For the purposes of complete clarity, relationships are a sore point for me right now. I operate via point to point navigation, that's it; I don't need other voices in my head on the topic. Get me going on any other topic and I am there.

@Palindromeman Gotcha.

All too true!

@JasonWikander......We were married for 24 years and we are still really good friends. Being my ex has nothing to do with it.

what do you mean by woman have lost respect for themselves? If it is related purely to sex, does that mean men have not had self respect from the start?

@OnaM I need more information. I don't understand what you're objection is. Please if you don't mind be specific.

I understand what you're saying and agree!

At 65 I'm wondering the same thing. But then I am learning to live with my limitations. The bold and sassy playful being is still there but the body is failing me - LOL.. Complete intimacy is limited because I will not do hormone replacement and I am always up front with that. Finding compatible friends is always worth the effort. I hav eyet to complete my profile as I don't really know what to say about myself.

@silverotter11 I was just looking at your profile. Is that your artwork? The jewelry? All that work is incredible. I’ve found it to be hard to write about myself with too much transparency, because Of confronting my own feelings like the one above. I guess that’s why most of my post responses are sarcastic, self deprecating, or just silly, I just prefer to laugh. Yeah, I have some of the limiting factors from my end, but if my memory serves me, I did like intimacy.?. A pleasure to meet you.

Yes, I've run into three bloodsuckers this week. One just came out with a yes to my coffee invitation then added, "I'm looking for a sugar daddy". Needless to say the coffee date never happened.

@Count at least she was up front and didn't waste time

Perfect

Nailed it.

@OnaM @OnaM no

@wpayton5599 Men in real life around me never ask me out. I'm fine with that.

..or on their way to becoming one.

@ailurophile Yes ...you are correct. Countries that do not allow women to participate in the economic activity are wasting a very important human resource.

You'll never know if you don't ask, right?

I think you'd have to elaborate on what a woman and a man should act like before anyone can understand your post.

@GoldenDoll At one time men would open a door for women, and she would thank you.Now some will look at you funny,no thank you..I try to be upfront with people. When I meet men or women I will smile, and bend my head a bit.You no it's kind of hard to put into words,And that is something new for Me.

Exactly. Love is love. Do what is right for you.

I've had women ask if I wanted to go to dinner, suggest the place, and sit motionless when the check comes. That's a last date.

Who are your guys?

The Anthill Mob ?

Love your comment and I can relate.

I re read the second part. I didn’t think it was a problem for a woman to pursue. When both are pursuing you know it’s great.