Hell no. I'm almost entirely self educated and got within the 98th percentile in the nation (10 years ago, but I haven't stopped learning everything I can). Trump graduated college and the guy is as intelligent as a lead paint chip.

I teach at a college and some of our professors are dumb as a post! Knowledgeable in their field but plain 'ol stupid as people. Sad.

IQ is mostly hereditary, as was proven in identical twin studies, but can be influenced by diet, opportunities, length of nursing time when an infant.

Most great scientists and world changers were either tutored at home, or self-taught, since they couldn't or wouldn't fit in with mindless public school education.

I'm educated and I'm lucky if I can get my clothes on right

No. We have been conditioned to equate human worth with pieces of paper whether they be signed off on by a dean or have pictures of dead presidents on them. What you are capable of learning and what you do learn are two different things. We currently have all the information in the world at our fingertips and anything we want to know we can learn. A piece of paper does not make us more or less intelligent. Knowledge is attainable by anyone. There will be some jobs that will require a degree but most don't. Figure out what you want and decide if the expense is worth it. But don't sell yourself short if you don't have a degree. There is little that they will teach you in college that you can't learn on your own. If you need to be around like-minded people then look through your local MeetUp groups and find people that you mesh with. Anyone that treats you like you are lesser because they have advanced degrees and you don't isn't very intelligent, they are insecure and weak.

Sapiosexual here. Attracted to ones mind and intelligence. Its kind of like book smarts and street smarts. Its better to have both but as long as you seek to educate yourself, you're smart in my opinion. Immerse yourself in the power and beauty of knowledge!

I just barely graduated high school and begrudgingly attempted a brief online college course years later. And yet...I'm still wicked smaht (despite a slight New England accent and major potty mouth causing me to seem otherwise at times).

The problem is not that I'm unintelligent. It's that I don't learn the way the school system wanted me to and I get bored very easily when I am not hands-on learning. School was hell for me for those reasons, and I saw little real-world use for the information that was being fed to us. It all seemed to be a waste of time. No one, myself included, understood that my brain is just wired differently. All of my current knowledge was learned through life experience or from genuine interest in the subject.

So, long story short, I believe intelligence is innate and cannot be taught.

In fact, some of the smartest people I know went to trade school and graduated with no debt and an instant career. They do very well for themselves now! I often kick myself for not doing the same.

Nope, I know plenty of well educated morons.

Intelligence has nothing at all to do with level of education.

Not at all.
I have a tested I.Q. of 137 and hold no degrees. I took the classes I needed to accomplish my goals, and succeeded.
My ex has two degrees and is a total failure.

One of my best friends was a software engineer making 200k per year and left it to go back to law school and is now an attorney, and he calls me the smartest guy he knows.
Not bragging, just using as an example.

I think intelligence is innate; education is pursued.

There is intelligence. And there is education. Both of these things may co-exist, but often not.

Look, I can write a brief really well. I would not know how to fix a car. These two things are differently intelligent (although, in a zombie apocalypse, fixing a car would be more useful).

My point is that a college education is a chimera - the idea that it's more than it is. You sound like you've evaded that.

Intelligence is an innate capability one is born with. Education will help sharpen that skill. But education cannot give you the capability, only the knowledge.

No, I was smart before I was ever college educated...but with one caveat: college does broaden and deepen your experience in ways being the smartest kid in the room cannot. That is the value of a liberal education in a STEM world.

no

I have seen it go both ways. I knew someone in the 70's that was completely self trained machinist that made all kinds of things for the rail road. I have also seen teams of ivy league schooled experts who read trendy magazines come into several companies and run them into the ground. It often comes down to barriers that person was not able to overcome but learned anyway vs a person who has so many resources that no barrier can prevent him from attaining a position he is completely unable to handle and immune to any blame for their mistakes.

College won't make you intelligent, just educated. Isn't that understood?

I don't think so at all. I think there is a huge difference between intelligence and education. I think the intelligence has more to do with what you are born with, commom sense, and your ability to learn. People that don't have access to an education can still be intelligent.

Sounds common sense.?

Beware of those who speak of IQ Intelligence. Look that one up which will take you into the Jungle of the Mind and who lives in what tree from which who grows the best fruits.
I'm a Veteran who went to a Community College and advanced to a Four Year Accredited College. I remained on the Deans List for all of these Learned Institutiions and I only accomplished this thur working numerous summer jobs for if I fell off the track it would be a major disaster that would take me a while to recover from.
It was the hardest job I ever had and the most challenging one I ever had to endure and when I got to the end of the rope did I come to know that the light at the end of the tunnel was not another train coming to meet me head on.

No but a college degree demonstrates that your intellect has been tested which is valued in today's society. As a result college grads are provided more economic opportunities.

Our current education system and society will be revolutionized in fifteen or twenty years when nanotechnology will enable humans to simply download information to their Neocortex. see the link...

[ted.com]

No. But an intelligent person with an education is good. I also know some so called educated people that are dumb as f**k.

Another's point of view is Always useful, or at least entertaining!

No...but education helps...

Of course not