WOW! What a Sunday morning shocker to wake up to! I am glad she is moved out, moving on up and removed and all of the other moves that apply. I am also glad that she is OK.....relatively

At my age, the only Life insurance I can get is term, and it's awfully expensive.....I'd rather just invest the money....the kids will get that instead. If in a bind for cash, I can pull out of my Roth

This happens so much. I'm sorry Claire also endured this. Mine was always verbally abusive and manipulative for ten years. He completely changed in that time to go from being in a band and partying often to becoming extremely religious and, of course, I'm not going to be a good christian wife. Without that belief, it's a bit difficult.

It got to the point that I was walking on eggshells constantly, and in fear. Nobody else ever sees this because when we'd go out to friends, he'd gotten my favorite drinks, held my chair, everything that connotes caring. The car drive home was always another matter, however.

It boiled down to one incident of him becoming hands on but I know that once it's done, I won't live the next time. I got up with my son who had thankfully walked it at the opportune time and left. I went back once when I knew he wouldn't be home, took what I could fit in my car and three other vehicles of friends that came to help and never looked back. Fought him in court for two years to get divorced and he got remarried a week after it was final. It's been 8 years

I had to fight him for contempt of court 3 times to get him to finish our decree as he owed my parents some $$ and he tried to not pay. It cost close to 20k in the end because he fought everything. It all ended as I had pushed for despite him attempting to get alimony out of me or attempting to get me to trade cars and give him one that I had made all the payments for at that point in time. You don't want to know the ignorant BS he tried for.

Since then he has called my parents to attempt to get them on his side. My relationship with my folks isn't the best either and it hurts me that they allowed him to actually voice these accusations. Finally my mom has told him that she cannot convince me to change anything in the decree and that it has nothing to do with THEM. She's told him never to call again. When my dad died, I hadn't heard that he tried. To my knowledge he has surprisingly honored her request.

I've had to endure stalking and his attempt to use friends to get information about me, along with a long list of other insidious and manipulative tactics. They aren't good people but thankfully not everyone is like that. I'm glad Claire has found her Shane! She'll heal and be fine. The world is sweet! All we can do is not let the bad ones in and appreciate the good when we find it.

I do not have kid(s) nor do I have life insurance. Nor did my parent have life insurance (she was terrible with money and me/my sister were on the hook to pay for her funeral and expenses related to clearing out her apartment). I do not know if my father has life insurance and I do not want to ask because he's convinced I only go to him for money, so that would prove his paranoia to him. fck it. I will get life insurance though when more stable job-wise, since I know how bloody expensive funerals and wakes are now, from experience. >:/

ughh what a POS. And you always spoke so fondly of them and their marriage/relationship. I guess he was one of those behind closed doors abuser types. fckng asswipe. I despise abuser(s) and I'd kick him myself for her. XD Hope she recovers and regains her former self.

Sad to hear your daughter's been living with someone like that. Good thing she's got her loving mom to lean on.

Well as a single father, I made my kids the beneficiary of my life insurance. Currently I think the payout is around $80,000.

On both kids, I've given them the policies as they've matured. Signed it over. Mine wasn't as large as yours was but it's always a good idea. And divorces can get ugly, mine cost over 15k by the time it was said and done but I had to take him back for contempt THREE times.

Your daughter is lucky she has such a mother who made the correct decisions as you did.

I don’t. I can’t afford to pay anything. I did start a few years ago, but had to close the account. Explaining why. I don’t have retirement bc I was a stay at home mom for 15 years when I came to the US, wasn’t allowed to work, and couldn’t have worked even if tried, my ex would move us to another one of his jobs! 3 years ago he alienated our 4 children, 2 daughters made their way back, pawns in the hands of a master puppeteer, but not having a good attorney I got no spousal support, had no job, then found myself homeless when he got me out of the house. Children weren’t allowed to speak to me for years, one is still alienated. All adults now. I finally found a state job with medical benefits, but salaries are super low, I work 2 PT jobs to pay bills. So, no, as much as I love my kids I can’t help them bc I’ll have to figure out ways to cut expenses and the only budget I can finagle is the food. My ex crippled us all, he helps 2 daughters now, but he has no life insurance. They are full time college students. In the event of his demise, they are screwed majorly and we have no family in the US to help us.

Sorry this happenned to your daughter but at least it was early in the marriage ,so will be much easier for her to start over ,Your a fanastic mom

You are amazing! Such a good provider for your daughter

...when I think back to my abuse many years ago. I wish I knew then what I know now. ...but off course I know it doesn't work that way. ...but the power it gives (how that situation shapes your inner strength) you now makes you wish you can go back and handle it better. ...been there!
I wish your daughter well and thankfully she's getting rid of "that".

Thanks for sharing
I'm not sure how life assurance works in USA.
You cannot make a loan against a life assurance policy in South Africa. It only pays out on death or terminal illness ie just pure life assurance.
Off course you can add benefits to the policy in the event of a disability or a severe illness, which then pays out in that instance ie a claim on either event.
Is your policy perhaps a savings combined towards a life policy? with a investment element which have already matured? meaning the term expired but the value remains without further contributions for you to make a partial withdrawal when required?

I am so sorry to hear that this has happened. I am really happy to hear that you were able to do this for her. You are a great person.

Yikes. Take some more out and pay someone to kill her fucking ex. Just kidding. A little.

Yes, I do. You need more than ever during these uncertain times.