Circle of life...

Maybe instead of building a wall on border with Mexico it should be built in the US and separate people along different ideological lines. I would completely support that!

@Flowerwall It could pretty much just run along the old Mason-Dixon line! There have been big secession movements in the South for years. I am all for giving it to them. And then we will setup trade relationships - and they will find their lives get a LOT more expensive. We have more than they do, especially technology brains and sources.

@Observer-Effect I don't know where the best geographic separation would be, but I do have some cognizant thoughts on the ideological divide to found it on.

@Flowerwall Yeah, its tough - because though the biggest concentrations of folks who are fans of theocracy and totalitarianism are in the south, there are some big pockets of them in places like TX, AZ, WY and elsewhere. So it would be hard to have borders that complicated. But perhaps just one in the South and then the other folks just have to move if they want to be part of it!

An Israel/Palestine kind of thing? Hong Kong/China?

@Observer-Effect Something tells me those in the south are not fans of totalitarianism, but that is opinion. I don't think religious belief or lack thereof would have to be part of it at all. Both of the ideas you suggested are contrary to the constitution and not recommended for either side.

@Flowerwall Yeah the word "totalitarianism" is a tricky one. They definitely are not big time into the government control.

Unless . . . it is government power used to enforce stuff like their views on flags, kneeling, Bible in schools, abortion, and stuff like that. So I think that totalitarian aspects of government when used for the enforcement of theocracy & ideology. A huge percentage of Americas white Evangelical Christians are in the south - and they do espouse theocracy, even if some may not know what the word means!

@Observer-Effect Sure and some people espouse anarchy and communism in the US and it still can be part of the larger nation. You don't separate based on that alone, but there are places in law, in reality where it HAS to be separate. That's my opinion.

@Flowerwall Do anarchy and communism fit together in some way?

@Observer-Effect They were two examples.

@Observer-Effect Also in some situations, it could be. Who knows? We don't know, do we?

@Flowerwall I don't know, but it sounds like you might!

You're right about that. I wasn't referring so much to the level of violence and weaponry, but to where the attack took place as well as going after the Chief of police in Mexico City, in itself, being no quiet statement. But the Jalisco Cartel has been a rapidly rising power and their continued escalation of paramilitary enterprise is not all that surprising.

@Amzungu yeah there was intelligence being collected on the central america cartels more than middle east terror groups when I was in the US military.