I watched a tiktok vid yesterday that said God killed over 2.4 million people in the bible. In the comments, many Christians were completely OK with that. It didn’t bother them in the least way. Personally, I find that absolutely disgusting. That is mass murder on a scale that would embarrass the worst, the most ambitious psychopathic murder of all time.
What are your feelings when someone says that? How do you respond back to them?
I just keep remembering it's just a story, except about weird guys that seem to have the ability to control water or something, it's weird, like one walks on it and the other parts it, like hair.
I said it was weird.
The Lord of the Rings is more realistic and better written.
Honestly, I was much more upset by Voldemort killing people in the Harry Potter series than god killing people in the bible. I think J. K. Rowling made her characters much more real than this King James guy did, and as a reader I felt more empathy towards hers. Character development is important.
Okay, to address your question; They are going to sidestep every question regarding god's mortality with answers similar to "God defines morality; so anything he does is moral." Faith is their fallback position. In their minds it defeats logic, morality, and reality.
They live in a world full of contradiction and intellectual discord. That allows them to maintain their belief regardless of their own knowledge.
I find it establishes what sociopathic goons they and their made-up god are.
In the sermons of biblical literalist pastor John MacArthur, he actually gets angry and scolds his congregation for questioning "God" in any manner saying essentially God can do whatever He goddamn wants... because He's God, and when God does a thing, it's unquestionably "good."
It reminds me of the Twilight Zone episode, "It's a Good Life" (Billy Mumy as the "wish them to the cornfield" kid) where we humans are supposed to respond (for example), "It's a GOOD thing God drowned all those babies, puppies, and kittens when He flooded the whole world. A REALLY good thing!"
I had a godbotherer coworker rationalize it by saying God knew those babies would grow up evil. When I asked about the puppies and kittens, he said God can do what He wants with the life He created.
I told him if a person drowned puppies and kittens in a bathtub, watching the terror in their eyes as their innocent lives were so cruelly extinguished, most anyone would recognize what a vile and reprehensible act this was. I also pointed out that the act itself accomplished absolutely nothing, as the tiny handful of "righteous" people God saved wound up breeding all the evil we have with us today. Noah saw first hand the power of this capriciously violent God... knew He was the real deal... and got pass-out drunk the first chance he got (an understandably human reaction considering).
This godbothering coworker subsequently quit speaking to me for besmirching the "good name" of his God by pointing out these disturbing facts and calling his God a sociopathic killer.
Good riddance and totally worth it. I tell him I won't sugarcoat his bullshit, and that I consider it a sign of respect to share my views openly and honestly with anyone who chooses to engage me.
I made the comment to someone that the devil in the Bible is only attributed to a handful of deaths whereas God had killed millions.
And rather than take on the concept of their God just slaughtering people they said yeah well the devil doesn't want to kill, he just wants to turn you against God.
You can guess my next comment but it didn't have any impact.
Tell them this about gods killings:
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.