I like to throw a Dan Barker line on theists. I ask them "Was Eve perfect?" Anyway they answer it, I have them!

The Christian message is that Jesus came to save the entire world; but according to the bible, Jesus said: "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." Matt. 15:24.

He didn't come for any other people (he even compared non-Jews to dogs). But his own people rejected him as the Messiah. It was Paul who took the message to the Pagan Gentiles (and he thought they were living in the end times).

Whoever Jesus was, he was a Jew and he remained Jewish and was turned into something he never was--the Messiah, King of the Jews, Savior of the world, God's son, God of the Universe.

Christians are actually Pagans and Paulists and they don't even know it.

LOL!

Do you suppose that ever causes them to question their ideas?

@rainmanjr doubtful. Many of them are so committed to the lie it becomes real in their head

@Triphid ...but you saw the craft? ...and you were sober when you saw it. We've seen crafts for about three months in a row in 2000. ...and also the 70s.
The military had no answers. People from all over the country were phoning in to radio stations and lines were jammed with all the callers (thus in 2000) The farmers had much more to say and about their experiences and those who were travelling to different towns who also saw these crafts hovering around.

@TimeOutForMe Not actually the 'craft' as such, just the very brilliant light from it, far more brilliant than anything around back in the late 60's.
Our rough estimation was that it was around 40-50 feet across, no blinding glare, no sound at all and simply stayed in one place without even being affected by the winds without even wavering as a helicopter normally does.
Our camp-site faced due west, the stretch of river ran north to south, at first it was thought to be the sun rising until we tried to switch on the transistor radio, but no dial light, no sound, not even the crackle of static.
That lasted for about 15-20 minutes, then the light just continued following the river very slowly and in a dead straight course until it was complete out of sight.
3 days later, when we returned home the newspaper were covered in stories of almost the same thing as what we saw but the stories came from places within 60-70 miles from where we were camped and all reports had almost the same time, description as well as a loss of electrical power associated with it.
Plus, it is very usual and normal for the Graziers in this part of Australia to get up around 4-5 am each day to get their working day off to an early start especially during the summer time when the temperatures can reach well over 35-40 degrees Celsius by midday.

I have often wondered if mental time warps on an individual basis might distort into some type of birth remembrance where the "abductee" seems to see a man in a mask and others around but the vision seen is very distorted. Then something is done to the naval and so forth. Hypnosis can amplify this experience and even help convince another person that they were also there. This comes about because the therapist believes in abductions and people thought they had missing time. The entire missing time phenomena is simple really. Missing time of what? There would be no time to remember.

It's not just a dick pic, naked woman, too.

I haven't seen that one before, it's hilarious

That's the problem with the point system, but then I'm replying for points too.

@Theresa_N Why more points? Do you get a prize or a trophy or something?

@Storm1752 Mostly just for the hell of it but also more "privileges" on the site. Used to be you got a t shirt when you got so many points, but I never wanted to be identified as agnostic anyway.