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LINK Hate Groups Are Most Common in These States – 24/7 Wall St.

So I found this interesting. 🤔

Maine. Whoa!!!! 90% white and yet it's #14 on the list. Logically, one would think, "Gee. Isn't Maine great? It's just me and all my white people. No need for hate here." 👍 But alas, there's no logic in anything American, so.... Neo-Nazi and White Nationalists R Us in Maine.

Hawaii is another curious deal. They're #16 on the list. But they've only got 40% population. Yeah. Where are the rest of those people? 60% don't exist, but the 40% that do exist hate LGBTQ++ and just people in general. (No shit! They're just "general hate" ers.) 🤭🤭🤭🤭

After finding serious mathematical errors in nearly all of this fascinating time-waster, I did my due diligence. Yes, this is considered a non-bias/factually correct source, and errors and/or omissions aside, they do rank the Top 20 the very same as 5 other reputable sources.

I'm just really confused by why no one bothered to add the demographics to 100% or as close as that as possible. That's just nonsensical. They maybe could've found hundreds and hundreds more hate groups if they'd just done the damn math. 🤪🤪🤪

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The reason that the statistics don't appear to add up is if people had the option of not indicating their ethnicity or there were other categories not shown in the results.
The main problem have I have with this and the reporting on hate groups in general is that it is assumed that only white heterosexual Christian males can be haters. Show me the science that backs that up. Equality is a two sided issue, it means that not only can you be just as good as someone else but that you can also be just as evil. I've met some nonwhites whose behavior can be just as bigoted as some whites.

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Statistics are the joy of those who wish to create wealth from extrapolating conclusions from flawed samples. I put little faith in any of them.

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As a Missourian I am totally aware of our hate and hate groups. The majority here are Republicans and of the Trump crowd. I work with lots of these people. Recently I heard a 38 year old mechanic claim Trump is the greatest president we have ever had. Is it job security? He works for a Trump supporter. Going back in time a bit, I recall one such supporter claiming that 5G is how they turn on and off the Covid virus and that is why people are tearing down 5G towers. We have 5G now with no complaints and nobody was smart enough to see that the entire clamor over it was to help silicon valley and dis China. As far as anti LGBTQ and Christian nationalists, we have that too. Still some anti blacks here but that is changing. Years ago everyone was concerned that blacks were wanting to "live next door to you." I put that to the test when her and I lived in the same house. 🙂 In the 1970's we even had a KKK head cop but he is dead now and time moves on. Still lots of racism.

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The Southern Poverty Law Center has become more focused on politics than it has on human rights:

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BD66 Level 8 May 11, 2023

Human Rights ARE Political by it's very nature..unless you're a Huge believer in States Rights..remember the Civil War?..

@Charlene

The SPLC employs a two-pronged strategy:

First, find a handful of crazies with barely any followers, no address, and no staff, and blow
them up into a dangerous movement— proof that there are neo-Nazis lurking everywhere. On
their notorious “Hate Map,” the SPLC lists 917 separate hate groups in the U.S.! No one has
even heard of more than a handful of them.

The second strategy of the SPLC is to undermine legitimate political voices that they oppose
by associating them with extremists like the KKK.

Take the charity known as the Alliance Defending Freedom. The SPLC lists them as a “hate
group.” Is that fair? Well, the ADF has a network of 3,000 attorneys from all across the U.S.
who’ve donated more than a million volunteer hours in defense of religious liberty. They’ve
had a role in 49 victories at the U.S. Supreme Court. Putting the Alliance Defending Freedom
on a list with 130 Ku Klux Klan chapters is not only wrong, it’s malicious.

According to the SPLC, one of the most influential social scientists in the U.S.— Charles Murray—
is a, quote, “white nationalist.” Ayaan Hirsi Ali, perhaps the most eloquent spokesperson for
the rights of Muslim women, is, to the SPLC, a “toxic... anti-Muslim extremist.”
Scores of other individuals and charities active in mainstream conservative or religious causes
have likewise been branded by the Southern Poverty Law Center as threats to society.
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Mind you, it is entirely fair to disagree with any of those folks. But it is utterly unfair to call them
haters or extremists. The largest category listed by the SPLC as extremists—with 623 entries—
covers groups like the Tea Party organizations that are wary of centralized government. Last
time we checked, favoring smaller government was a mainstream and perfectly honorable
American tradition.

What is not honorable is the course prescribed by a leader of the SPLC, Mark Potok, who was
caught on video proclaiming the organization’s true intentions. He told a group of supporters,
quote, “the press will describe us as ‘monitoring hate groups’…. I want to say plainly that our
aim in life is to destroy these groups, to completely destroy them.”

Portraying someone with political views different from your own as a public menace is bullying.
And it’s a dangerous game. Instead of reducing hate and violence, the SPLC’s name-calling
directly incites it.

In March 2017, Charles Murray was trying to discuss his acclaimed book Coming Apart at
Middlebury College when he was violently attacked by protesters inflamed by the SPLC’s
labeling of him as a racist. A professor escorting Murray ended up in the hospital.

In 2012, a gunman attempted mass murder at the Family Research Council, and failed only
because the first man he shot managed to disarm him. The attacker told the police he acted
because the SPLC had listed the Family Research Council as a hate group.

It’s a vicious irony: while promoting itself as a monitor of “hate groups,” the SPLC has, in
practice, become a fomenter of hate.

Yet the group rolls on, bigger than ever. What keeps them going?

For one thing, the establishment media constantly quote them.

Scare stories about right-wing storm-troopers are a sure way to attract eyeballs, and fit nicely
with the media’s own preconceptions of the “dangerous reactionaries” lurking out there in
middle America.

Second, alarmism is a great fundraising technique. Convincing people there are fascists
everywhere has turned the SPLC into a cash machine. Last year, the group hustled $50 million
dollars out of frightened liberal donors, adding to the $368 million dollars of assets they were
already sitting on.

So, the next time you see the Southern Poverty Law Center quoted in the news, just remember:
the masterminds behind the SPLC aren’t eliminating hate. They are fueling it.

@BD66 answer my statement..
Are Proud Boys or Patriot Front not storm trooper domestic terrorist organizations, or are they "Very Fine People" as Drumpster claims? Was January 6th NOT an attempted Coup? Is Ron DeSanctimonious Not banning Books that "upset" white folks? Is the attempt to make Kkkristian Evangelical beliefs Sharia Law nationally not Religious Fascism?..Is it OK that Weapon Manufacturers, the NRA along with FNN the largest groups by far of Alarmist propaganda adherents in weaponizing the Amurikkkan public?..You mention FRC.. a virulenty Anti-Choice, Anti-LGBTQ, Anti-BLM, proudly Anti-Democratuc Kkkristian Organization that has No issue with the subjugation of minority groups, that doesn't allow dissent with in their White Kkkristian Male dominated organization...but do tell me more how wonderful these folks are..

@Charlene I'm sure the SPLC has labeled some groups correctly, but it has gone too far and labeled those with different political beliefs to be hate groups.

@BD66 like the Entirety of the ReThuglican parti..

@Charlene Who is the one sounding hateful?

@BD66 I loathe spineless politicians that embrace Fascism, particularly the silent ones acceptance of it..in short the entire Party of Drumpf..

@Charlene Do you know Fascism literally means Socialism with a Nationalistic Labor Union spin. The Faschi represented the weak workers bundled together into something strong. It's completely nuts to compare Trump to Mussolini.

@BD66 really? 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆.
I suggest you actually find a dictionary and look up the Definitions of them..next you'll be claiming Hitler was a Socialist..lololololololololol

@Charlene Why? Because he changed the name of National German Workers' Party to National Socialist German Workers' Party, then drove Germany into bankruptcy and war with insane Socialist policies? How could I ever make that claim?

@BD66 ahh they were Insane Fascist policies..again look up the definitions of Fascism v Socialism...ya know what, never mind, you're just another apologist for Trumptyhumpty's and Rethuglicans rush to embrace Fascism..wrapped in the flag and carrying Mein Kampf..

@Charlene

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New Hampshire came in #3.. not surprising, it was the home of the John Birch Society after all..

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Interesting that there are Neo-Nutz in Hawaii.
My niece and others note that there is prejudice against Haole but not to life affecting.
Maybe the only US State where being white is a negative issue at all though.

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I'm always a little surprised when states where a single digit percentage of the population is Black are so racist. Maybe since they don't really know any Black people it is easier to dehumanize them. Never having had those feelings, it is one human behavior l have never understood and despise with every fiber of my being. I am so grateful to have had the parents and grandparents l had. I grew up in a very racist town in SW Oklahoma and we were just not raised that way.

That’s a lot of what it boils down to…….it starts at home. As a young kid myself my parents owned a house on Suburban Long Island which at the time was our summer residence from April to November, and lived in Brooklyn where I went to school. It’s two TOTALLY different worlds in almost every way imaginable.

Ohio for me, near Steubenville, and still one of the most backward, bigoted places I know of.

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