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Do you find it offensive when theist think without a belief in god/gods, it’s impossible to have morality?

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If someone is telling me that they think I'm amoral then that is an objectively offensive thing to say. However lets put it in context. I do try to not take offense at the delusional ramblings of the mentally ill.

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I do object to the "holier than thou" attitude some theists hold over non-believers because it is so obviously unfounded. Morality finds many of its tenets in the foundations of the biological blueprints for survival of whichever species. Just because someone wrote it in a book doesn't make it their property alone. Indeed so many immoral acts have been committed down the centuries in the name of theism that they should perhaps apologise instead of berate?

Just Level 4 May 30, 2018
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Yes. Especially considering how immoral some of their books/teachings tend to be... I actually got into an argument with a prof in university about how morals aren't static, and how they actually evolve with society... he vehemently disagreed... And when I brought up examples he just ended the conversation... Like it was morally acceptable for royalty to marry in family because they had to keep the blood pure...

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I do not take offense at what other people think. What other's think is none of my business, does not concern me and does not affect me. It is their actions and what they do that has an affect on anyone.

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No. Just shows they're ignorant, and willfully so.
But then that's religion in a nut shell.

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I'm amused.

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Let's see now, I get my morality from life experiences, family, friends, innate sense of empathy and compassion for others, books, schools, the golden rule of society, etc. When I'm faced with a decision to do right or wrong, I immediately know it and it has nothing to do with scoring points for Big Daddy in the sky.

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I believe that here in the U.S. all people have the right to believe as they wish. Beliefs,skin color,educational levels all factor into the persons character but do not define it. I live an active lifestyle,try to be friendly and mostly succeed in not judging others. As for morality; I believe there is right and wrong,good and bad. Each person is unique and should live the life they enjoy!

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Nothing is impossible. I've run a marathon.hiked the Grand canyon, know people that have run a business using just a bicycle for transportation and done other incredible things. Beliefs don't really factor into morality,you can only try to good within reason. I believe in moral proximity (help when you can and have the means).

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I find it highly disconcerting that as far as they’re concerned the only thing keeping them from raping or killing is an imaginary giant sitting in judgement. Says a lot more about them than us. Ok dude... I’ll just walk on this other side of the street then. You do you, your holiness. People be scurry. ???

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Honestly it shocks me.. especially when the comment comes from someone I've known for years..

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I don’t find it offensive.. but it is incredible stupid. it just means that they would choose to have no morality cuz they are psychopaths hiding behind false morality.

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Not really, but I'm a behaviorist. I try to fully own my own emotions, thoughts and reactions, therefore I understand what others think and do is on them and out of my control.

A few theists are toxic, but sometimes it's funny instead of offensive. There was fellow supervisor (thank goddess he barely impacted my work) and there had been a little tension, but nothing big. He found out I'd performed some gay weddings and angrily asked me, "you're just an unrepentatn sinner".

I said, yeah man. Strangely that worked for him, he just needed to put me in a box and that decreased our tension.

I still smile when thinking about that exchange.

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Nope

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being offended by something is never an argument for me. It annoys/frustrates me and I do feel compelled to point out the unbelievable level of ignorance the person has to think that only a theist can be moral. Being offended is subjective to the individual. Remember, there are people out there who are offended by the idea of equality. Whenever I disagree about something with someone, if that person ever accuses me of offending them, I like to go with the famous Hitchens reply of 'I am still waiting to hear your point'

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My answer revolves around not being able to screw up and pray to have my sins wiped away. Atheists are required to get it right in one, it's what makes us such great people.

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I can't really say as I've never been confronted with it first hand but I don't think I'd find it offensive as it's nonsense

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More than anything, I am sorry fiction has shaped somebody's view of reality to that extent. Ignorance, just by itself. doesn't offend me. It saddens me.

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I find it incredibly arrogant and smug and it can really disgust me at times. So yes.

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Not, really, only a non-critical thinker sees the world in a dichotomy. I will point out that the concepts are not mutually exclusive, one can be critical of religion and be a moral person. If they are not receptive, I ask myself, do I want to waste time (that I can never get back) attempting to broaden the mind that is like a steel trap (closed so that nothing gets in). I have the choice to be pulled into their ignorance or move on...

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I find it very offensive. One is basically saying you are not a human being. The fact is, everyone has morals. Even inside prison there is a moral code. Morals are a part of humanity and can be either bad or good.

Punch Level 4 June 2, 2018
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Response to the titled statement as read yes or no, prior to reading specificity of nature.....imagine yourself as the thiest, who's just boosted the spiritual ego....enlightened seem to spread light......you've been handpicked by the theist to discuss and debate! Advance the upward gravety of gnosis

StephD Level 4 June 11, 2018
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I think that it is a little bit offencive but mostly I find it ignorant and arrogant on their part.

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"You don't need religion to have morals. If you can't determine right from wrong, then you lack empathy, not religion."

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Haven't we had enough with the offended whatever? No, I am not offended. People can do whatever they want as long as it doesn't interfere with my personal space. If that happens to be the case then instead of being offended how about a sucker punch? (Just being ridiculous nonsensical because I can 🙂 )

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