A true liberal
I ask this question often and get strange answers. I believe the biblical jesus was a radical liberal
Jesus was said to hate the government and he never tolerated injustice, remained steadfast on equality and so on.
To think that he was conservative is just wrong.
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Amidst the countless contradictions in the Bible, one consistent message is that rich people who do not give generously to the poor are bad. Rich people are always portrayed in a negative light in Bible stories.
JoshBecker
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June 11, 2018
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The dictionary defines a liberal as one who is tolerant. But the word is changing as all living language is fluid. The conservatives rage against my definition tho they are hardly a tolerant bunch. They are the ones who wish to prevent progress. Opposing racial integration, voting rights, supported the Vietnam War, were anti cannabis,agaist women & gay advancements inequality, they are pro corporation, & anti union. The ultra left is not liberal as they don't tolerate any discourse from the right, especially on campus. So good luck in your search for liberalism.
Mooolah
Level 8
June 2, 2018
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@Lonely Not totally wrong. But a healthy lifestyle is your choice. What may be healthy for you is not unhealthy for others. Imposing your values on others might not be in their best interests. Prostitution is someones own decision & the government should not impose legalities but only regulation. Alcohol is used by many responsibly & the debacle of the 14th Amendment is evident in historical terms. Cannabis was erroneously lumped in with truly addictive substance,s in an archaic system that has filled our privately owned prisons with non violent folks who wish to imbibe a medicinal & non addictive mind lifting plant. Cannabis has killed no one where as tobacco kills 420,000 folks annually. To impose ones own values on others is a denial of individual choice. One has no right to such impositions in this country & we are moving towards that end. Cannabis has many beneficial properties. Pain relief, anti inflammatory, mood elevation, cancer cell destruction. Big pharma & the vice industry do not want the competition from a plant one can grow in their back yard as my great grandmother did. The most dangerous element of cannabis is its illegality.
To think that it is real and had thoughts is just wrong.
NothinnXpreVails
Level 8
June 2, 2018
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He didn't exist.
Ellatynemouth
Level 8
June 2, 2018
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EMC2:
I realize he did not exist however there remains a world based upon this myth. And it is a world that condemns people.
My only point is that in modern times they, the alt right , continue to debase liberals and yet I assert that jesus was just that.
@EMC2
Yes. I agree.
Do you think the Buddha ,Muhammad and other religious leaders existed? Or is it just Jesus.
There are scholarly videos to be found on YouTube about the subject. I started watching one of them, a presentation by an author who'd spent years researching the subject. After a while of listening to him I had no doubt that Jesus never existed. He was historicised.
There is also a website called [jesusneverexisted.com] which is a fabulous resource.
I wouldn't be surprised if Buddha actually did exist, because he wasn't supernatural in any way. There are no deities in Buddhism.
"Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar"--Jesus the Taxman
"You think I come to bring peace on Earth? I come not to bring peace on Earth but a sword"--Jesus
There are more than enough contradictory things coming out of Jesus moth in the text for you to twist Dogma to form left or right, and it has been done in History.
Jesus was both Pro and Anti slavery during the civil war.
Davesnothere
Level 7
June 2, 2018
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Well, let's see, does the idea that he had apparently nothing against slavery have any importance? The character as presented in the bible never once explicitly renounced any of the Hebrew scriptures -- "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, not one jot nor one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
~Matthew 5:18
I've heard all the interpretations attempting to do away with this, but they don't wash. Sorry, folks, but the dead Jew on the stick was in no way the fulfillment of all. His anger with the money changers was not because he was against taxes or money changers, but because they were not acting in accordance with the ancient Hebrew law regarding money lenders and they were operating inside the temple.
No, I'm afraid the Jesus character was a confusing mix of the two ideas. Strong elements of liberal mixed in with an overwhelming amount of conservative, barbaric early law. Too confusing for me.
evidentialist
Level 8
June 2, 2018
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There is no complete concept of Jesus, except what he says and does, just FYI before you think that he was a subscriber to a political ideology that came into fruition many years after his supposed lifespan. At best, we know that he was a philosophical, scholarly type with vigor, and a good degree of fire.
Please note that in the US, Liberalism is another word for Democratic Socialism, one of the reasons why he is not a radical liberal.
Now, was he radical? Oh yes, everyone has read the canon about his rebuke of the Rebbe and the King at the time according to the mythos, but his concerns were mostly not political, and were about developing his own rabbinic belief system. which a lot of Jewish clerics do. In Jewish tradition, Rabbis and such like to add to canon and they form their own belief systems....so Jesus was more likely a Hasidic Jew than a Radical Liberal in his ideological interests.
DZhukovin
Level 7
June 2, 2018
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EMC2:
Thank you. I did not intend to discuss his ideology or his religion, Just attempting to get down to what it is that scares the alt right so much they have to hate liberals , yet not knowing what a liberal is.
My point is that the new hate of the conservatives is indeed the liberal media and so on, yet their own precious lord was a liberal in attitude,
@EMC2
The alt-right hates liberals because liberals could give less of a damn if white heritage, culture and genetics gets minimized or removed from the Earth through liberal population controls. Liberals in the US are not populist, unlike the alt-right, and seek elevation from their condition, but the alt-right is proudly populist so you're seeing two very different ideologies trying to assert control over the same space, while being controlled en masse by memetic nexuses (media outlets, blogs, public speeches, etc.) that administer their knowledge, and play with their emotions. It's just how political culture is, a person either likes it, or they don't but it's a figment of diversity and it's a shame when otherwise good people get hurt over such conflicts.
I tell people "Jesus fed the poor and healed the sick regardless of how much they 'earned it' or deserved it." And they get so mad "NUH UH JESUS DID NOT"
And that's when I give up because obviously they never read the bible and are fake christian hypocrites which are the worst kinds of christians.
LadyAlyxandrea
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June 2, 2018
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