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Quick poll how does everyone feel about GMOs? I have no problem with them myself I’ll buy them eat them what ever. But I prefer to grow and try out heirloom myself. I like the older and odder varieties. I want to keep them alive and save the seeds of the ones I like. So how do you feel about GMOs?

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I get all my seeds from either Baker Creek or Seeds of Change.
I only grow heirlooms. I do it not only for myself but because I've heard it's healthier for the bees. smile001.gif

SkotlandSkye Level 8 June 23, 2018

I love Bakers Creek. Plus a trade seeds and cuttings with people


My objection is not to the genetic modification itself - we have been doing that since the first farmers - but the stranglehold it gives the big companies over the seeds, the damage some of the modifications may do to the environment, and other side issues.

CeliaVL Level 7 June 22, 2018

There is no stranglehold. Search "seed dealer- any midwestern state" then click corn or soybeans. There are always both conventional and GMO varieties available everywhere. Farmers have lots of choice everywhere. Yes, the lines are patented, but so are all conventionally bred plants coming out of the university system.

@CrazyQuilter The stranglehold is not so much in the USA but in developing countries such as in Africa where there has been a huge amount of unregulated GM experimentation by the major companies, indigenous strains of seeds are in danger, and small farmers are in danger of being forced out by agribusiness..

@CeliaVL These are complex issues that cannot be properly addressed in this forum. Yes, ag research needs to be done where the unique problems exist. Developing countries have less regulation on ag research. The enormous amount of toxicological, environmental impact studies in the developed countries are reason enough to consider GM productst to be safe. Subsistance farming is no longer sustainable in a changing climate. Slash and burn must stop. A promising way to replace outdated and unsustainable practices is by developing crops that are more efficient in taking up nutrients, more tolerant of disease and insects. Small farmers have not, and cannot feed the increasing populations in developing countries. Part of the 'good old days ' in developing countries is famine. [en.wikipedia.org]

@CeliaVL A link to a directory of seed banks that are preserving indigenous strains. [agprofessional.com]

@CrazyQuilter The issues around GMOs and agribusiness are complex and i don't think this is the forum to debate them, but these articles may be of interest: [counterpunch.org]: [ecowatch.com]...
There are plenty of arguments the other way, too, so I don't think the question is by any means settled.


Well studied GMOs are not a threat to anyone.

wordywalt Level 8 June 22, 2018

What about RoundUp?

@Leafhead Roundup is not a GNO. It is a chemical compound.

No, but it is used in conjunction with GMOS bred and genetically engineered to totally resist Roundup so that farmers can just broadcast that shit willy nilly.
I am not opposed to eating the GMO, but I do object to eating poison on my food


Say NO to GMOs

Leafhead Level 8 June 22, 2018

GMOS are our ruination. They allow farmers to broadcast poisons like Roundup which don't touch the GMO but kills everything around it. And then we eat it!
Say NO to GMOs

Leafhead Level 8 June 22, 2018

Not enough data to know, so no.

MissKathleen Level 9 June 21, 2018

Farmers have been genetically modifying animals and plants for centuries, and it is just that now modern science has a faster way, as it does for many things. Every banana you eat nowadays is a GMO cloned one of one species. Some people will have fear and mistrust, and they may avoid them is they wish. There is more danger from fat, sugar, salt, and additives in the average diet, but the GMO avoiders will probably still be buying fast food fries and burgers and fried chicken sometimes. Each to his own, I guess.

Silverwhisper Level 7 June 21, 2018

I'm not opposed to the GMO directly; it's how today's farmer treats the environment thru use of herbicide resistant GMOs. I don't care to have that sh*t on my food, no matter what it's genetic makeup.
Farmers need to SHARE. Farming every square inch is not necessary. And broadcasting of poisons is both ineffective and downright bad for the environment. We all have to live here.

@Leafhead Using pesticides is different than the GMO issue. Large scale farmers don't have much control over food production and what methods are used. Most are under contract from one of the 5 major food companies that control most of the large scale food production operations for the food supply for the whole planet. Small local farmers have more options and they may try things like organic farming if it brings a decent return on their money.
I agree completely with you on the use of herbicides and pesticides which all work their way into the water table and into us eventually. MOST urban food buyers will not buy fruits and vegetables with specks and spots and any sign of disease. We have to get back to teaching people that a perfect looking chemically treated apple may not be as tasty or healthy as an untreated one with a few disease spots.

Completely agreed.
As the old joke goes, what's worse than biting into an apple and finding a worm?


@Leafhead Not sure about eating worms, but we do have cricket powder as an alternative new ecological food on our grocery shelves here. It is $30 a pound, so that is not going to convince people it is a more sensible source of protein than chicken, pork, or beef!

Not to mention it's made from bugs!
But I'm game for anything. I say if something is bugging you, eat it.
Locusts eating your crops? Don't spray em, eat em.
Bugs are about 0% body fat and all protein.
The quickest way to drive something into extinction is to create a market for it.
That goes for all invasive species. Eat the weeds too. Starting with garlic mustard.


I fear what happens when they escape into the world. Hybrids like africanized bees.

Mooolah Level 8 June 21, 2018

Maybe it's because I studied genetics and microbiology for 3 years that I don't trust GMO's and I am NOT saying that there is anything dangerous about GMO's just that I don't trust them because I don't trust the Agribusiness players behind almost all of the GMO foods. The FDA used to be a check against abuses by industry but that hasn't been the case for at least a couple of decades now, most of the top people have direct ties to the big Agribusiness players so we really don't know what genes are being manipulated and what the knock on effects may be.
I grow with heirloom seeds even though many of the heritage seed banks have been bought up by the same corporations that are producing the GMO's, many of the seeds I plant I trade for and I replant from previous year's harvests as well. We are what we eat and until I can be sure I know what I am putting in my mouth I will minimize my intake of GMO's, the same goes for the meat we eat, I shop locally for the most part and I am pretty confident about the amount of steroids, growth hormones and antibiotics that are being used but I am fortunate and live in a rural area.

Surfpirate Level 8 June 21, 2018

Coming to a rural farming community near YOU!
GMOs, cancer, pollution and extinction events, all from use of GMOS and Roundup in our food.

@Leafhead Well they sure aren't doing the honey bees any favours, that's for sure. The bee keeper down the road lost all 6 of his hives last year, the farmer next door who switched to GMO corn two years ago says he had nothing to do with it. That was the only variable that obviously changed. The people certifying the safety of these new organisms are like the 3 stooges.


I generally avoid them, don't trust them. I'm not going to die on that hill, but I will avoid them if possible.

HippieChick58 Level 9 June 21, 2018

I have seen no actual evidence of danger. I have both heirloom and gmo plants. Some heirlooms are second generation. If I saw actual evidence that gmo crops were harmful, I would change the way I feed my family.

JenBeberstein Level 7 June 21, 2018
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