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The Brown Bess was the standard fire arm during writing of the second amendment. This 1 minute video demonstrates the differences in killing capacity compared to modern assault rifles. Is this what the framers had in mind when they wrote this ambiguous and obsolete amendment?

Garban 8 May 26
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Slightly off the topic, shortly after his 18th birthday this month, the school shooter in Texas bought two assault rifles and 375 rounds of ammunition. He could just walk in the store and bought them without being required to get a license.
I wish someone in America could give me one good reason why an 18-year-old, or any ordinary citizen for that matter, would need to buy an assault rifle.

Ryo1 Level 8 May 27, 2022

There is no good reason, though there are plenty of bad reasons.

@SpikeTalon It's a shame that one has to live with such a 'just in cace' mindset. And it's not that the US doesn't have gun control laws but it seems that they haven't been effective enough in protecting the innocent from gun violence. What you (and we all over the world) need is a comprehensive approach to gun control and mental health reforms. Easy said than done, but still...

I visited friends of a friend in Idaho a few years ago. The conversation turned to gun ownership and the man of the house said that he had kept several loaded guns in the house when his children were growing up because two local girls had been raped and murdered in the town so he was taking no chances.
I said fair enough for a self defence weapon but why would anyone need a semi automatic weapon.
A reply from someone else was "it may be his hobby". After I suggested that he takes up knitting or stamp collecting instead I think I was asked to leave.
So there you have it. "it may be his hobby" I think the man meant shooting at targets and not school children but I may be wrong.

@Moravian It's just beyond our imagination, isn't it? Everyone wants to live in a society where parents don't feel the need to teach their children how to use firearms, surely. If it's a hobby to collect guns, they don't need to be loaded.

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Here's the Youtube link of this important video. Share it, please?

Robecology Level 9 May 26, 2022
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Please don't point out relevant facts such as this to your local Rethuglican: it hurts their ugly little brains and they might turn nasty on you.

anglophone Level 9 May 26, 2022

Tell that to Beto;

@Robecology As if he did not already know that. I am truly delighted that he did what he did.

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I have made this same argument in the past, but it basically comes down to the point that any blame can’t go to a weapon, only the individual. Fair enough. But, to that I suggest that we fast-forward a couple of centuries and ask ourselves: do we want any and every individual to have access to hand phasers and photon torpedos? 😂

The Second Amendment was written at a time when the citizen (i.e., white landowner) would be called upon at any time to defend the state as a member of a “well-regulated militia.” On the frontier of postcolonial America, a firearm was a necessity for hunting game, as a defense against wild carnivorous animals and, not to mention, those ‘pesky’ Native Americans who objected to their land being grabbed. 😉

I find it rather ironic that the so-called Constitutional originalists can’t apply the same standard (in terms of firepower at the time of the debate and authorship) when interpreting the so-called intent of the Framers.

Ask yourself: Can there be any doubt that the Founding Fathers would be aghast at what we see on the news every day? Behavior that is protected by the very amendment they wrote to secure our new nation against external threat?

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When the first amendment was written, it was also standard practice to let wealthy citizens own warships and use them against enemies of the state or pirates.

Tejas Level 8 May 26, 2022
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The AR 15 should not be allowed for civilian purposes. No civilian needs a gun like this. It was created to kill humans very quickly in WAR by SOLDIERS.

What sort of society allows a kid just turned 18 to buy two of those guns and hundreds of rounds of ammunition ?. Do the people watch dystopian superhero movies and confuse fiction with reality ?.

@Moravian A very sick society let’s this happen. I do believe that all the doom and gloom that Fox News and other media sites like them spew, cause a lot of the angst and anger that trigger people to do these horrible things.

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