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Do you believe that we have souls? If so, can you answer why?

AccursedHalo 6 Dec 27
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I should offer my own words, but Harris is so concise and eloquent on the subject, I had to just quote him. If you haven't read Letter to a Christian Nation yet, stop farting around on this site and go read it now.

"A three-day-old human embryo is a collection of 150 cells called a blastocyst. There are, for the sake of comparison, more than 100,000 cells in the brain of a fly. If our concern is about suffering in this universe, it is rather obvious that we should be more concerned about killing flies than about killing three-day-old human embryos… Many people will argue that the difference between a fly and a three-day-old human embryo is that a three-day-old human embryo is a potential human being. Every cell in your body, given the right manipulations, every cell with a nucleus is now a potential human being. Every time you scratch your nose, you’ve committed a holocaust of potential human beings… Let’s say we grant it that every three-day-old human embryo has a soul worthy of our moral concern. First of all, embryos at this stage can split into identical twins. Is this a case of one soul splitting into two souls? Embryos at this stage can fuse into a chimera. What has happened to the extra human soul in such a case? This is intellectually indefensible, but it’s morally indefensible given that these notions really are prolonging scarcely endurable misery of tens of millions of human beings, and because of the respect we accord religious faith, we can’t have this dialogue in the way that we should. I submit to you that if you think the interests of a three-day-old blastocyst trump the interests of a little girl with spinal cord injuries or a person with full-body burns, your moral intuitions have been obscured by religious metaphysics."

-Sam Harris, Letter to a Christian Nation

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I believe there so you don't get dirt and stuff in the flesh under your feet and it makes standing easier.

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No, I don't believe in souls, I believe we are all in our physical brain. I have cared for people with encephalopathy and also transient global amnesia. Looking at what parts of the person remain when most is gone is a real eye opener. Personality changes, memory loss, and how things change back when they recover. Makes you realises that everything that makes them who they are is in their brain and body, nothing extra somal.

Interesting observations!

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It's an interesting thought, but the evidence suggests that all mental functions take place in the brain, including the chemical reactions which induce emotions. I'm afraid I'm not a chemistry or biology student, so I can't be much more specific than that. So, there doesn't seem to be anything beyond the mind.

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I believe this has soul.

Duke Level 8 Dec 27, 2017
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No. That is part of the religious mythology and is used as an inducement to attract followers, promising eternal life.

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Why should we? To me this is another anthropocentric word that has been in use so long that even the non-religious consider it plausible.

like I love you with all my heart which is a blood pump.

@LeighShelton I always say "I love you with all my butt". Because it's much bigger.

@Duke I had a girl love me with her hole butt once. It was amazing.

@JeffMurray LMAO! You're twisted. I like you.

@LeighShelton How about I Love you with all my mind. To me that makes it real and based on something more than emotional feelings.

well that's the truth but you hardly know me

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I have longed for the consciousness to live on. You know, energy being neither created or destroyed sort of thing... BUT, a recent first experience with surgical anesthesia has me considering that to be more of a pipe dream than anything.

Zster Level 8 Dec 27, 2017
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Defining "soul" is the first task. I'll abdicate right away.

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No. If I had a soul, I'd have traded it for something more useful by now.

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I think I'd need a clear definition of "soul" to properly answer this. Some people use it metaphorically, others mean the sentient quality, and still others refer to a metaphysical, immaterial, immortal substance. I have no problem with metaphor, but see no reason to refer to sentience as "the soul." And in terms of metaphysics, I see it as fine for thought experiments in philosophical discussion, but I don't accept the claim that it's somehow who we are now and eternally. I see no indication it's true or that anyone should take the claim seriously.

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I don't know if we have "souls". I really hope that when my body quits, my mind/personality quits, too. It would give me great peace if I could be assured that when I'm gone, I am gone. Who knows. What matters is that we try to live decent lives. Just be honest, ethical and decent.

SKH78 Level 8 Dec 27, 2017
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One of the odd things about our language is that it enables us to talk about things that do not exist, unicorns or the bandersnatch and it extends to conversation about things that we can neither prove or disprove.
The notion of a soul would imply something that was implanted.....

Implanted? Like a pacemaker?

I think the problem arises when the words we use have a religious connotation. To me it is a way of promoting religion which, for me, should not be promoted. Besides it is helps us think about what we say.

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No. never have

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Soul music maybe

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It depends on how soul or spirit is defined.
If it is like how when someone dies in a movie, and you see their spirit leave their body, then no, I don't believe in that.

But in anime or cartoons how the spirit leaves the body when they get hurt is really funny tho! Lmaooo

@AccursedHalo yea i love how anime portrays it
Lol watching some now

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I cannot say for certain but it doesn't look likely. Having said that, my atoms become new things, and this is spiritual for me, so if a soul is a spirit, then perhaps the new organization of atoms is like me in some insignificant way.

If that's true, you're just millions of other people and things...

If you mean that our bodies undergo continual change throughout our lifetime, I would agree. The river may look the same but we never step into the same river twice according to Heraclitus

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No. I mean, my understanding the definition is that it’s a consciousness hat persists after death. Our consciousness, who we are, can be obliterated by Alzheimer’s...that to me indicates our consciousness resides in the brain and upon brain death, ceases to exist. The energy animating us carries no consciousness of its own...

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I'm glad to see reasonable answers here. I have heard so many people ask "you don't believe in heaven? Where do you think we go when we die?" To me, that is someone who hasn't given it much thought at all. How can you go anywhere when you are dead?

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To me it seems that most Christians view the soul as something separate from the body, and leaves the body when a person dies. In that sense, I don't believe there is any soul, given what we know about how brain and body chemistry affects thinking, emotion and behavior. When our bodies die, we die completely.

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connection between neurons that contain memories .. is ur soul .. the way they emerged from the beginning till the end .. that makes you who you are .. well some say it will be gone when u die .. some say by law of thermodynamic nothing will be gone it will just change to another form of energy

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As much as we desire it to be so. Its like before you were born. You didn't exist, knew nothing and felt nothing. There will never be another like you.

How do you know that you didn't exist before you were born? The only reason we're capable of perceiving this existence is because of our brain. Energy is only transformed never destroyed.

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Yes, I do. Yet my concept of what a soul is, what does it do and where does it reside is a little bit different than what most religions teach.

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It may be our residual star dust energy develops a collective unconsciousness?

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I don't really know. I've reached a mindset where scientific and spiritual understanding run parallel at times. We can break everything down into human measurements and patterns and scientific theories and laws but it doesn't take the wonder out of it for me. So as far souls go... I don't think, if they exist, that most people have them. In which case it could be a matter of higher consciousness and potency (specifically in regards to something like reincarnation). But take away a certain chemical or part of the brain, and you have a completely different person, so... I think when I die I just won't exist anymore. Just whatever unconscious energy I carry that will return to everything.

Cwen Level 4 Dec 27, 2017

It just sucks to think all of this is for nothing.

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This is my humble opinion... I believe those individuals that have an out of body experience... I myself saw me sleeping I was like 6 to 8 feet over me. Scared me. There is a "believe" that people that died in their sleep for no apparent reason is that their soul left the body and was unable to return... if that is the case the soul is needed for our life as we know it. I know it could be simple church and religion hogwash to slave us in their fear for our soul. I also believe in spirits entering and leaving our bodies, they just don't stay... heroic acts beyond comprehension... incredible performances could be another reason. I am not an expert. I did while in college in a class and experiment conducing to "us" or our soul leaving our body. Started with laying down on the floor and relaxing the whole body to the point that I could feel my blood flow and my heart pumping blood in all my veins. Not everyone was able to feel that blood flow but I was not the only one. That is as far as she took us but when you can feel your heart pumping and that blood running thru your body you either get scare or believe in god... I choose to get scared. My opinion... not a value or fact. a part of me believe in reincarnation too and the meaning of old souls and new souls. You can tell that I don't know the answer to the question.

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