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I’ve been very involved in my local town hall. At this month’s meeting they started the tradition of adding saying the Pledge of Allegiance (fine) and a Christian prayer (not fine). When I voiced my opinion opposing this, I was told that Congress and most of then surrounding municipalities do this. They also added that if I didn’t like it, I should step outside during this part of the meeting. I haven’t begun researching counterinformation yet. I’m pretty sure anyone not Christian is viewed as not worthy of life.

This is a small rural community. Any suggestions on valid arguments that might make sense to decision makers (who are all older, white, good ole boys from the country)? Or should I save my breath?

Bethany 4 Aug 22
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Check to see if the Satanic Temple has a counter prayer. Argument is that they have to be all inclusive or nothing at all.

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Talk to FFRF and let them know when and where that is happening. Onlline, go to FFRF.org

yrral Level 3 Aug 23, 2018
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Just tell them all the bad things they used to do before and don't do anymore. Examples: slaves worship gods of odin, thought tomato was poison and potato was poison. Women did not have the vote or could own property you get the drift.

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Freedom from religion takes on those types of issues. [ffrf.org]

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Do you really wish to take up this issue. As long as it is a non denominational prayer it has yet to be considered unconstitutional. You might take a knee in protest.

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I would bring my own, ‘reflective ref’ for people who share your spiritual inclination and ask that it be presented, along side the prayer...as a valid member of this community, stepping outside is not acceptable! And, I would write letters and put it in writing! This is not separation of church and state! Good luck!

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It depends on how much effort you are willing to put into it. If you see yourself moving away in a couple of years, then I'd say not worth it.

Nada Level 3 Aug 24, 2018
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I think you've probably already figured out by now that the Freedom From Religion Foundation is a good resource, but the larger question, for me at least, is how hard up are you? Are you willing to go to the mat on this one? Do you have kids or a spouse who would be drawn into this? And to what extent is your livelihood dependent on your community? Do you wish to retire there? Do you have any allies in this fight, or are you the sole champion?

It's your call to make in this struggle, but go into it with eyes wide open, would be my advice. Peace.

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Talk to FFRF and let them know when and where that is happening. Onlline, go to FFRF.org

yrral Level 3 Aug 23, 2018
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Hmm..the law has been ambiguous on this point, but this article has some legal info

Link: [ffrf.org]

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Separation of church and state violation. Oh, and Congress is also violating.

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why are so many people saying to save your breath? this town hall gang is breaking the law. saying they can do this because we are (purportedly) a democracy is like saving leave the bank robbers alone because this is a democracy. congress does it too, yep. they're breaking the law too.

i wouldn't pull any of the stunts folks are recommending. i also wouldn't grin and bear it, or step outside either. just call ffrf.

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