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I just had a mind blowing conversation with my fundamental christian mother. We discussed the bible, evolution, the universe, and other light subjects.

She tearfully admitted that she does not believe the bible to be infallible. She said that it was obviously, "too full of man".

She politely asked me to stop because I was, "crumbling the last foundations of her faith".

I informed her that I wasn't attempting to do that, but that I was glad she was willing to talk about it with me.

I never thought this day would come.

She told me that she thought I was very intelligent and thoughtful and that she admired me.

Up until today, I was only described as wayward and sinful.

Oh, happy day!

Donotbelieve 9 Sep 13
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Mother Theresa said very late in life that she had not felt the presence of God in her life for over 50 years. It's never too late for humanism and reason.

Yes, and that she kept on for the good she KNEW she was giving to the needy. Strong lady to admit it. Lots of flack because of it though.

That evil bitch withheld pain medication from suffering patients because their suffering "brought them closer to God. If there were a hell she would be rotting in it, as far as I am concerned.

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We should always remember that kindness that we show to others , speaks volumes. I'm glad that you can sit down with her and openly talk about that with her. We sometimes forget how hard it is to let go of years of indoctrination.

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I think it's awesome that your mother is coming around and acknowledging your thoughtfulness and intelligence.

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Wow...what a moment! Congratulations!

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My family insisted that I follow Catholicism...none of them ever attended Church. My mom lit candles, prayed to the Infant of Prague, but was stalwart in her decision not to attend and often said "If I walked into a Church it would collapse..." I was never a believer in Catholicism. It was boring, scary and the nuns were mean as piss! I often wondered why my mom was such a devout believer but didn't observe her religion. It was many years later that I realized she was ashamed of her own sins. During a discussion I showed her pictures of our solar system, of galaxies and broad sweeps of Universe. She was stunned and said she thought the Sun revolved around the Earth and never dreamed that there was a Universe! Then she asked me about God's relationship to all of this. I explained to her that the Infant of Prague was her personal God. She agreed. Then I explained that there are many gods, made in Humankind's image. "Which is the real one?" She asked. "Reality is a matter of perspective..." I said. One her deathbed she told me she was no longer a believer because her life hadn't gone the way she expected it to and her "God" had broken their agreement. I reminded her of the breadth of the Universe and told her "In an Infinite Universe, all things exist. Even God. Just not in the form she expected."

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Awesomnesses...

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Know the TRUTH and the TRUTH shall set you free. ****

**** One thing JC was right about.
Atheism will eventually win....we have the TRUTH

Reading the Bible will turn you into and atheist.

That's exactly what happened to me. @FlyingEagle1952

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Hope that it lasts. Keep us posted......no matter which way it goes..

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B-i-b-l-e, basic information before leaving earth

Baseless information perhaps?

basic fantasy brainwashing bullshit before leaving earth

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Thanks so much for sharing! It's a beautiful thing when a loved one's eyes begin open.

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"Happy Day"...Indeed ! Almost never happens. Congratulations.

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Progress! That is good to hear. Although, I would not suggest pushing too much more.

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Great story, thanks for sharing....

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I am still the “blasphemer” my family. Mother in law is not at all in about pointing that out. To be in your shoes, to hear those words. There is hope. Always hope!

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That is a great story

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So, even light subjects can make walls break down. It's like the walls of Jericho, the right sound without a lot of effort, over and over again and they tumbled down.
It indeed must have been a happy day. She needs a lot of careful care now to support the awareness she needs.

Gert Level 7 Nov 2, 2018
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Such a great story. My dad taught me to believe in mother nature. I think my mom is a believer so she can fit in. My aunt and uncle know I don't believe. My brother turned super religious and it freaks me out butbhe was always a Napoleon Dynamolite type so I just humour him. He acts like he doesn't remember that I am atheist as we were raised. My grandmother was protestant and then Christian I believe but she was deaf so she never knew her grandchildren never believed in god. She never questioned us not going to church with her. I think I went twice. My father says he got kicked out of Sunday school for asking those impossible questions that they can't answer ? and he got beat with a stick for it to get the Deamons out. Crazy stuff happened to people because of religion and not because of atheist so go figure.

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I never had a chance to have that conversation with my mother once I gave up supernaturalism. I'm kinda glad I didn't because I was very angry at the time and it wouldn't have gone well.

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Very funny and touching.

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Very cool. cool toconect with moms. congrats

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Humble in victory, gracious in defeat

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This brings tears to my eyes, in part because my own mother, who used to be a big part of my life, voted for Trump and I excised her forthwith. You've a powerful, no-nonsense style that I can only hope to achieve some day. Thank you for sharing this.

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I had a similar experience with my pastor. As I cornered him, he openly admitted that the Bible was mostly mythological!
I was still openly welcomed in my all inclusive church.
I still attend from time to time to help out and distribute plants to the members (mostly Milkweed for their gardens)

I had a garden center for 30 years but we always had signs up warning people that if they were lactose intolerant, then they should avoid the milkweed plants.

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Don't be too happy about this. You have helped her see the light, granted, but you have also taken away her security, her sense that there is always Someone out there who will take care of her. You will need to help her build a new set of coping skills so she doesn't feel cast adrift. My suggestion would be to not push it, and to let her set the direction of any conversations you have on this topic. Her fellow church members could also work together to convince her that Satan is using you to lead her astray, so she's not out of the woods yet. Sorry to be a Debbie Downer, just my two cents' worth.

@Donotbelieve I have heard of a lot of broken families due to religion because the religious parents feel like they need to punish you to make you believe. It's sad and they loose their opportunity to be an actual parent and be there for you. Instead they ate there for god which is a false since of security and to me a mental illness that people need this crutch to feel secure. They beat their children to get the demons out. They lecture you about belief. All in all when are they actually there for you? Never if all they Sonia follow the Bible on how to raise you instead of coming up with their own conclusions. I am with You and you shall not be judged!

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That's awesome, I'm really happy that she came around. Unfortunately, I often feel that my parents, especially my mother, treat me like a trophy on the mantle: love to bring people in to brag about me and my accomplishments, but all weapons drawn in a panic the second I speak my mind. I don't know how she expects me to get such an intensive science education and not learn to question things. I remember one specific occasion at dinner where I was sitting quietly and respectfully waiting for the rest of my family to finish their prayer when I look over to see my mother glaring at me the entire time and when they finished, she started ranting at me about how I should be respectful and say the prayer with them. Quite frustrating

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