I just had a mind blowing conversation with my fundamental christian mother. We discussed the bible, evolution, the universe, and other light subjects.
She tearfully admitted that she does not believe the bible to be infallible. She said that it was obviously, "too full of man".
She politely asked me to stop because I was, "crumbling the last foundations of her faith".
I informed her that I wasn't attempting to do that, but that I was glad she was willing to talk about it with me.
I never thought this day would come.
She told me that she thought I was very intelligent and thoughtful and that she admired me.
Up until today, I was only described as wayward and sinful.
Oh, happy day!
I wonder what is causing her to change. Has her doubt always been there? I hope this leads to more meaningful communications between you.
Having parents of faith when you're not is almost always fraught. You wish they would come to the point of leaving the faith, but you never wish for the crisis of faith that often accompanies that transition.
A couple years ago, I saw signs that my mother was experiencing a crisis of faith. I was hopeful that it would result in her eventually walking away from her fundamentalism and I felt guilty for wishing for it. However, it turned out to be extremely short lived and she's deeper than ever.
Either way, I'm glad you were able to have this moment of understanding with your mother and I hope it might strengthen your relationship.
I've noticed that sometimes planting seeds works wonders.
You've reached your quota for a couple years now.
@Donotbelieve You go girl!
My grandmother was a hateful southern baptist. On her death bed she realized that she was a bad person all of her life and asked me to apologize to those that she she was hateful towards. I am glad that you seem to be connecting positively with your mother. It is a tough go to realize that everything that you knew to be true is now in question. Give her big hugs and lots of love.
@linxminx I do not know. I could tell you stories though. ?
I often take for granted my more tolerant upbringing. I'm glad you are able to have this opportunity. Congratulations.
Congratulations! I somewhat know the feeling as I have seen a few people crumble as a result of similar discussions with me. This reminds me of a long series of discussions I had with a hard core Catholic who asserted (among other things) "All gays should be placed on a small island so god can kill them." After dozens of hours over many weeks, the day after I changed tactics and decided to complement him on every one of his positive attributes; the conclusion of that session he left assuring me he would carefully examine my points. The next day I found him in a corner of the stairway going down to the men's health center (higher priced luxury locker room) at the YMCA (my theist hunting ground). He was curled in the fetal position and supported by the two concrete walls. I decided not to debate him that day.
Excellent! My Christian mother once made an odd remark, long after I was an adult, regarding religion. That remark (don't remember what it was) caused me to ask her outright if she believed that Jesus Christ was her lord and savior. She said "no" and when I said something about her not being a Christian she was quick to tell me "Of course I'm a Christian". No wonder I'm a non-believer.
Happy day for you, the fact that she has opened her mind to the possibility that everything in the bible is not true is just the first step for her. It must be hard for her to face the fact that everything she has always believed in is not infallible after all. She is able to rationalise in her head that is due to manmade mistakes in the writing of it rather than the message itself being wrong. Doubt has crept in and that is the first step towards considering that the whole thing might just be wrong, Take things slowly, and hopefully after more discussions with her she may see more of your point of view. I am sure it must have been a wonderful change to hear your mother say these lovely words in your praise. I feel like giving you a hug too.
@Donotbelieve Thank you, I mean them.
That’s awesome!! The door is open for further conversations!
What an awesome day for your relationship with your mother!
This doesn't happen often so well done to you and your mom!
Ask her this question, "Faith is what let you believe Santa Claus was real. Should adults use the same method (faith) to believe god is real? Or anything?"