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Would like your opinion on this...there's a nurse I work with who basically hit on me at work. He's married. Im not interested but see him as a comrade as I do all my coworkers so it came as a shock. First he added me on facebook...which is fine, others have done the same. Then he became more chatty. Then a few days ago I noticed he touched my shoulders while talking to me and also once on my waste with one hand ...I noticed it but decided it was nothing weird or something others have done at one time or another so I forgot about it. Then the next day I asked him to waste a drug with me and he said, for you Id do anything. Then the next day in the OR during a case he just basically says to me...the pants you wore into work this morning made my day keep doing that. I turned bright red. I workout after work so I wear my workout clothes to work then change into scrubs. I found myself explaining this to him and embarrassed, ashamed. I said I wasn't wearing that anymore. He said no please do. That's why I sit by the scrub machine every morning eating breakfast. At this point I didn't know he was married. But I did feel uncomfortable. I laughed it off and tried to make a joke of it. I mentioned it to a female coworker who told me he was married with 4 kids. I was really kind of shocked but decided to pretend it never happened and avoid it in the future. Went home. Then he started messaging me...nice way to end the shift with you and other flirty things. I confronted him that he was married. He said...so can't a man give a woman a compliment as a friend? then he wanted to know if I would be attending the going away party at a bar for a scrub tech sat night. asked me twice if I would be there, said i need to start hanging out with my work family. I did not go. Im not sure the correct way to deal with this. I don't want to be weird or make a problem or anything bc i have to work with this person. I work at a small facility and we have a very close work family. Im hoping it doesn't ever come up again but if it does....how do I address it appropriately without creating tension?

lauraleigh38 6 Nov 17
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If you're not the charge nurse (or if he isn't) I would report it to her or him. Take a female witness with you from another dept or a friend who doesn't work there.

I'm the type of person who doesn't mix business with pleasure. I don't give guys an opportunity to hit on me at work.

My job is too important to compromise over one person.

She didn’t give him the opportunity. The guy’s a jerk creating the tension.

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Tell him you are not interested. Make sure to include that his comments while flattering, are making you uncomfortable. Be honest with him. Tell him you would like to keep the work environment professional. If he cannot stop the compliments then I would consider unfriending him on Facebook. Keep all interaction with him work related and be up front when he tries to be flirtatious.

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Don't worry about creating tension. As a former Director of Human Resources, this man is sexually harassing you which is illegal.

  1. Report his behavior to his supervisor.

  2. If you have a human resources director, report it to him or her.

  3. Clearly and loudly tell this man to stop touching you.

  4. Keep a log of each time he made you feel uncomfortable or touched you against your will. Document:

date; time; location; what he did, who said what, witnesses, etc.

He sure should have gotten a clear message to leave her alone when she confronted him about his being married. Since he apparently did not get that message, I think your suggestion is probably the best way to go. It might be uncomfortable, but it could stop a bad situation from getting worse.

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Tell him you are interested in getting his dick picture to show his wife how he hangs out at work ! Then call his wife and get her to deal with him !

Mets Level 6 Nov 18, 2018
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What a slug. The administrative route is secure, but can make certain situations worse. Be clear that you're not interested. Don't entertain flattery. If you're trying to be conversational, maybe bringing up his family with questions that force the embarrassed idea of answering for his wife might help, but doubtful. I chuckled at the comment of getting a dick pic for his wife. I don't know. Maybe give him a warning that if he doesn't stop, you're going to report it. At least that's up front, giving him the choice to back off our face consequences. Also sends the message you're not to be trifled with. But you have to follow through. Document everything. Any way you handle it, be careful. Sometimes things don't turn out like you expect. A situation I was in, my employer reprimanded me because I spoke back. Anywhere else in public, it would have been a crime. Nothing like blaming the victim. Even in a corporate setting with harassment policies. Outside work, the law applies, inside.... who knows!?

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Be strong, firm, open, honest, and serious. It's tempting to try to get along, but if he doesn't respect your feelings, then not taking him on will make matters worse. Go to your supervisor, go to HR, go to your EEO Rep, and tell them now to protect yourself.

Keita Level 5 Nov 18, 2018
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Ok when you are hired at this hospital isn’t there a hand book or orientation pretty much like most coed jobs. He usually goes over this stuff with new employees. Sexual harassment is outlined in every handbook company policy’s on posters in break rooms right next the ombudsman poster...... yes anyone? The rules are very clear and he has violated them. It is your choice what do next. If he is truly a friend that crosssd the line. Give a serious what for it simply shout out stop hitting on me around multiple coworkers ... ok maybe not. If you had the talk and do much as catch him staring at you then go to HR and let them handle it. Or go right to HR .... now don’t wait you will want to get it on record. Either way he is going to stop or go away or walk the other way if he sees you.
But do not wait till it happens again and so not be polite or nice about it. You must convey how wrong what he’s doing is. How it makes you feel, and how disgusted you are with him as a married with children husband and father. What would his wife and children think about dad hitting on a woman at work. Go alpha in his ass and if says a word before your through. Just walk away and go straight to HR.

But I’m an asshole like that ....
The rules are clear.... be Brave and shut him down, scare him and repell him with how disgusting he is to you.

Peace, Love and Understanding

   Brain 

That’s not you being an asshole. It’s never wrong to stand up for yourself.

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Well he's definitely trying flirt, I suggest just keeping your distance. It would probably be the best way help end things and not cause any problems

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Report him to HR immediately. His behavior is unacceptable.
Make out reports for sexual harassment.
They need to put a stop to this.
Your workplace is toxic and hostile.
NO means NO.
Stop means STOP.
Don't remain quiet...you did nothing wrong.
STOP him. Speak up.

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Haven't women learned anything from the Kavanaugh hearings? Download a recording app. Turn it on and put it in your shirt pocket. Go up to him and tell him you don't like his attentions and if he keeps it up you'll go to HR or his wife. Record what he says after that. Otherwise, it's he said she said.

Yes, we did learn from Kavanaugh, and from Anita Hill before that. We learned that people in authority don't give 2 fucks about sexual harrassment, and that we will be disbelieved, ignored, and labeled as trouble makers if we complain. Thanks for the advice, tho.

@Emerald

Some don't give a fuck about harassment but some give a great many fucks about evidence.

@Anonbene "Some" being the operative word.

@Emerald
No, "evidence" is the operative word.

@Anonbene only if HR givex a damn. In my hospital they've proven time and again they do not. She knows her hospital culture better than we do. But if she goes to HR and they do nothing, he will make her job far more unpleasant than it is now. Ive been in her shoes. Have you?

@Emerald Some people in authority do care about sexual harassment. Those who don't are still sensitive to a public scandal if they ignore sometime who has solid evidence. Making recordings is good advice. I have a recorder on my phone that picks up everything and I record all of my phone conversations.

@Emerald, @Meili
Thank you Meili, I think Emerald is just in an argumentative mood today.

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Sounds like hes just another sexual predator, who's bored with his wife and seeking a bit of fresh, tell him to fuck off orat least get a divorce first 😉

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I’m sorry you are struggling with this. He’s being an ass, and you owe him nothing. He is sexually harassing you and you should report him. Unfriend him on Facebook. He is being disrespectful to you and likely knows he makes you uncomfortable.

UUNJ Level 8 Nov 18, 2018
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His marriage is his business. Admittedly, that's pretty tasteless if he is cheating, but they may have an open marriage - so, don't judge too harshly.

In the final analysis, it's about what you want. Since our culture agrees that men have to be the ones to express interest, he is doing what everyone agrees he should do. If you aren't interested, then tell him. Say simply "I don't want to confuse you here; I'm not interested in dating you. You're a good guy, but I don't want to date you." It'll suck and his ego will take a hit, but he is the one that brought all that into work. If he can't be professional after he gets shot down, then he shouldn't have brought that into work.

If he doesn't take it well and it becomes a problem at work, then go to HR. He has to go.

Own the situation and this should go away fairly quickly. Silence is compliance, so you'll need to speak up and express what you want. Often that is adequate. If it isn't, then go to your employer. If the employer is any good, then it'll get dealt with quickly.

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57 comments and counting. Maybe someone already said this. Why can't you tell him to his face you are not interested and be done with it? Harrassment continues then plan B but until then....

I think because most of the comments assume this guy is a pig, instead of giving him the benefit of a doubt. When she said, "First he added me on facebook...which is fine, others have done the same." I assumed the attention was mutual. I guess if he had not been married with four kids it would have not been a issue.

@MarkF I agree completely with your observation on jumping to conclusions too fast and calling this guy a pig, when in reality we don't really know. Now, thinking out loud, I would say she is asking for external feedback to find validation because she may not dislike him and she doesn't know which way to go. Of course, I could be wrong because back to square one, we don't really know.

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Just explain if this doesn't stop that you will go to his wife with your complaints

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No whether or not he has an 'open relationship' or just cheating on his partner/spouse NO man has a given right to accost ANY woman what-so-ever.
To my mind, he's just being a dirty filthy perv and needs to brought into line asap.

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Takes courage fist, get him have a coffee break and tell him like it is, platonic is as far as it goes and what he is doing may have to be addressed as harrassment.. You like him as a person but am not interested in establishing a relationship of non platonic nature.

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That's tough. You should be yourself, no more no less. And tell him straight out, you have other interests, sorry pal, but that's how it is.
If he keeps it up......shift supervisor needs talked to.
Good luck.

Keech Level 5 Nov 18, 2018
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Meet it head on.. tactfully let him know that his behavior makes you uncomfortable..you have every right a work environment of harassment... he is seeing how far he can go with you...let him know if he cannot control his behavior then you will have inform Human Resources of the situation... it’s always best if you have witnesses, but that is not always the case, nonetheless, don’t let this grow and really get out of hand... you know being in the medical profession “ the best cure is prevention “ ... best wishes.....

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Report him to hr. He is violating company policy. On a first offense (of this nature, anyway, I have fired first offenses that were more overtly sexual) they will usually council anonymously. Remind him of policy, explain that there "have been complaints" and put a record of it in his file.

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If you are around him for any reason, keep an eye on your beverage! He appears to have no boundaries and may be targeting you because you do not speak up...the fact that You felt "embarrassed" by his mentioning your perfectly legit workout wear troubles me!
The correct, fair thing to do is tell him, Once, in short, pithy words, 2 simple declarative sentences max, that you do not desire this type of attention, and that if it continues you will go to HR. (Your posting here, BTW, should be a "proof", if HR asks, so good going!)
Do Not answer His questions, wheedling, etc. after saying your piece! Jjust walk away after delivering this message, as staying/listening will allow him to spin another web around you, and give him more excuses to harass you. And make no mistake, this IS workplace harassment!!!

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Can you talk to your HR/office manager? This is sexual harassment. I would had probably be on the samesituation, because Ibehave like you do. Then, I get to a point I become distant and cold with the person. If you don want to talk to HR or tell him to step back, then unfriend the guy from fb and avoid dealing with him for a while. He will get the hint.

@Veteran229 at any healthcare or government institution this is clear cut harassment. She does not have to deter his advancements as they were never welcome in the first place. The minute he made an inappropriate comment and touch her, he was in violation.

@Green_eyes @linxminx @Ignostic_Skeptic The only problem with having idiots on block is that you still get to see other people's replies to them.

@Green_eyes I think you need to look at my comment more closely to see who I was referring to (clue: it's someone you replied to).

@Gareth understood. Misread your comment

@Veteran229 Solid observation there Veteran.

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HR and wife, contact both. It is disgusting behavior and should not be tolerated.

Contact wife - interesting approach. There's more varibles there though, for example if his intentions are truly pure and he's just way too friendly (a marriage is unnecessarily disturbed) or if both the husband and the wife are looking for a third and the wife starts adding to the problem...

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Women hit on me all the time. One student told me she loves me. I just ignore the passes and move on with my life. They are adults, they know it's not appropriate. What else can you do about it? There's nothing to say. Since I ignore it, they know that I'm not interested and the passes stop after a while.

@linxminx I agree, ignoring may work at times, but if it happens repeatedly, then stronger measures are needed.

I hate to have a sexist viewpoint in this regard, but men have the potential to be more of a danger when they are the culprits and this type of action is not deterred immediately. I'm very friendly, considerate and thoughtful (as I've been told), and my actions have led to some CONFUSION. In several circumstances, I failed be clear when someone expressed affection for me, because of my own story that I hadn't begun sharing and it led to headache and much heartache. Unfortunately I wasn't a fast learner, because I went through it a few times, before I realized I had to be extremely clear about the possibilities of a relationship. Still, through it all, I never was in a position of danger (though I felt harassed at times); women tend to be more likely to be victimized/harmed in these scenarios.

When you're a woman, sometimes just ignoring it escalates the situation. Also, in addition to the creep factor of a man crossing the line to being inappropriate, there is the threat of physical danger - seldom considered by men who get hit on, but ever-present in the mind of any woman.

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I'm sorry to hear that you have to endure that?. This type of guy will not understand normal communication - you'll need to do something dramatic for them to get the hint. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS LETTING THEM DOWN SOFTLY. They're on the predator spectrum.

The next time something happens, please start to cry - you don't have to be loud or hysterical just visibly disturbed - then walk away without saying anything. When you return to your station, avoid him, try to stick with someone else. He will seek you out and ask what's wrong or what he did. He knows, but he'll ask. Use that as your ONE time explaination that the style of communication you've been experiencing makes you feel very UNSAFE and that you can only tolerate professional communication from him. If he starts to downplay his actions, mention that you've reviewed HR policies and you will seek HR AND law enforcement help the next time he does any flirtatious action. He'll try to downplay the situation maybe make you look silly, but hold to your guns. "You have no idea what I've been through! This is a place of work, so I expect to be provided a safe work environment or I will take action."

Unfortunately, this kind of guy is like a puppy dog. You can let him down softly with a head rub. You pet him even once and that'll get his tail wagging. From now on, he's permanently in the dog house. If you are the type to care about his feelings, think about the 'confusion' you could be putting him through, if you don't take quick and decisive actions (AKA playing games). Block him on Facebook immediately. Don't stare at him, don't comment on his jokes, don't compliment his work ethic - he has already demonstrated he's not good at determining what is too much, and he will reciprocate too far. Whatever delusion he has in his mind will fade, but know this - the second you slip up he'll be back in fantasy land. SHUT IT DOWN. Your eyes should exude blizzards.

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