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How do you feel about assisted suicide at the end of your journey in this life. I am definitely in favor of it. I was a nurse for 40 years and saw too much suffering. I wish it was legal in my state. And, I don't know if this is allowed on here, but what means would the common person use. I am not in any way ready , nor do I have any illness or plans for this. I'm just one who thinks ahead.

crazycat329 7 Feb 4
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Assisted suicide is bordering on oxymoronic if you think about it. Suicide means "self" inflicted. Assistance comes from "other", not self. So what we're talking about with this term may be unclear. The only circumstance I can think of in which "assisted suicide" might be an accurate description would be where a person was fully mentally competent but physically disabled to the extent they could not manipulate the necessary tools to end their own life.

Plenty of people have ended their lives by simply refusing to eat. Hard as that might be, if a person is unhappy enough with life to choose death, it is a path requiring little else other than determination.

Other than in the fairly rare circumstance mentioned above, I can't think of a reason a mentally competent person couldn't DIY this task without assistance, and if not mentally competent to make the decision at the time then another person following prior instructions would just be a murderer. There is no way to know what you will want in any given moment until that moment arrives. So, for me, except for that one rare circumstance, suicide is best left to the mentally and physically able. There are ways. It's not hard. You can figure it out with a little study. I don't want to "assist".

skado Level 9 Feb 5, 2019
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It should be the choice of the person involved. I do think it's important that the person that has asked for assisted suicide be given a small amount of time to contemplate and verify that is what they want for sure. My husband's brain cancer denied him a choice in that area. Eventually I had to make the decision to withdraw life support and that's a very hard decision when the person you love cannot communicate with you any longer. My father wanted to die during the last two months of his life but his decision wavered almost daily. In other words assisted suicide should be granted but there should be safe guards.

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I agree.

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Yes in favor of it under guidelines of course, for instance if you get drunk one night and call for the death squad to come over and finish you off it would be an irresponsible service if they did indeed arrive and finished you off.

JCII Level 5 Mar 29, 2019
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I hope I have the capacity and the courage to end my life once my health and quality of life are irreversably poor, but I would appreciate it if I could legally have a doctor aid me in doing this. If that is not an option by then, I will find a way even if I have to order the drugs by mail to do it.

Exactly,,,100 % how I feel.

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I'm all for assisted end of life. I decided this after watching my Mother, who was mobile with normal aging aches and pains, locked in a secured memory care facility. She had dementia but remembered us but often talked about us as if we were much younger. She cried a lot wanting to know what she had done wrong and how bad the guards were. She wasn't in prison but it felt like it to her. She was miserable for 3 or 4 yrs and even if her memory was scrambled, her emotions, whether rightly or wrongly deserved, were real. I hope my mental state lasts long enough that I know when the right time is.

Me, too.

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I watched an academic documentary about the decision to turn off life support. It was produced for medical students to help them explain options to relatives. In recent years there have been a number of famous cases involving young children. I understand they caused contraversy in USA because children belong to parents in UK where as they don't here. Anyway they interviewed families who had taken the decision to turn off life support (assisted suicide of a sort). Most moved forward but notably a few families couldn't. One guy said, it is easy to say what you would do but you never know and that is the best way to view it. I can't imagine ever wanting to leave this world, but you never know.

As a 63 year old, I feel stronger in my resolve everyday to leave this world on my own terms. Hospice helps, but just doesn't go far enough.

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I've always said that the day I judge myself to be burden or potential liability to my family I will quietly go away and end it all rather than drag them down with me, even if they want to.

Me too...I will maybe check into a nice hotel, take a bunch of sleeping pills, sit in the tub, and have a blood-letting.

@LenHazell, when my mother was dying the nurse said she could have a morphine injection every two hours and asked if I wanted mom to have it that often. I told her to give mom every dose and not miss one. If that helped ease her out of this world I can live with it just fine.

@freeofgod absolutely, that Morphine is a dying person's best friend.

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Im in total favor of it. I plan on using this option when the time comes. The legality / controversial nature of the issue is a byproduct of our religious culture.

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I can't say much on the subject because I've never been in a situation where death seemed a better option. I've never suffered pain that could not be helped with an aspirin. And I'm sixty years old. I do know that I would like to have the choice of ending my life in a manner that is dignified providing I was in the state of mind to make that decision and if there was no better option. For other circumstances, I couldn't care less. I will make that decision. Hypothetically speaking.
Right now I'm healthy, I love people in my life, people love me back, some of them depend on me which I like.

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I guess I used the wrong word when I actually said "assisted suicide. I suppose the assistance I meant was in having a Dr assist you, by prescribing medications to assist you in your passing.

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I am against assisted suicide. As a nurse, I have seen suffering too, however no person is an island and I think there is no real way to be sure that this is the individual's own desires or someone elses'. Already in some countries, we are seeing assisted suicide of the mentally ill, children and I even read about someone who was intractably obese being assisted to end his life (assisted as he wasn't able to). I think it is a very quick leap to 'assist' those 'undesirables' in society. I cannot comment on someone taking their own life, that is a personal choice but we never have the right to assist someone to end theirs. People are not sophisticated enough.

I suppose coming from the same county as Harold Shipman, I have a different view. I once cared for an elderly lady who told me that every time she saw her granddaughter she would complain about their cramped home. The old lady told me that if she went the house would be available for her grandaughter and that was why she wanted to end her life (she was refusing all interventions). I said, but don't you want to live and she said, 'its not about me now is it'. We have not made sophisticated enough tests to ensure another person is not influencing us. I hate seeing people suffer and it crushes me when someone tells me they want to die. My usual response is, 'do you want to die or do you want this suffering to end?' I have never encountered anyone who said they wanted just to die. For the most part the members on this site are intelligent and thoughtful but most people just aren't. We can convince people they are a burden when they really aren't, we can convince people their suffering cannot be relieved when it can.

I’m an RN too. There’s zero nobility in suffering.

I’ve told my family, no one has the right to make me get painful treatment and/or ‘live’ in agony; don’t even ask. I’ve seen, especially in Hospice, family begging and/or coercing the patient to try one more round of chemo, get a feeding tube, see another specialist, etc, because THEY can’t let go.

For me, a mentally competent adult can choose. Mental illness, big gray area.

@Amisja , I'm in reasonable good health and sound mind. And I've been telling my daughter for years to help me out when the end comes. I've seen to much death and the pain it caused the dying person. If a dying person wants to die they should be allowed to discuss it with their doctor. Their doctor should be able to help. Period.

@CarolinaGirl60 No I agree with that.

@CarolinaGirl60 I suppose it is the difference between taking one's life and assisting someone else. It is too dangerous to place that decision in someone else's hands.

@Amisja That’s why the states that allow it have a process, and the person gets the meds and takes them home. At that point, it’s there if they want it.
A great documentary on the topic is How to Die in Oregon.

@CarolinaGirl60 That isn't assisted suicide. I can do that...32 paracetamol and I'm done for. That is suicide (no chance btw, I am way way too nosey for that)

@Amisja You’d die of liver failure, which might not be as fast as desired. With Nembutal ( most used drug), it’s minutes. I agree it should be called ‘assisted dying’. Those who get the drugs are terminally ill already.

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