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I inadvertently started a bit of a "brew-ha-ha" earlier. I guess I live either a sheltered life, or I'm oblivious to these things. Apparently, being an Agnostic or "non-believer" is in some areas of our country, including mine, the equivalent of being in league with Satan, or something similar. Therefore, people fear including a real picture of themselves in their profile. Something about this is disturbing for me. Is our society this repressive? Or, is this a contrived fear?

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The USA is nowhere near as "free" as you guys pretend it to be.

chazwin Level 6 Feb 18, 2019

Says a guy who doesn't live here. smile009.gif

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America is a very mixed bag. Some places, it does not matter. Some it really, really does. You need to know the local feeling,and pay attention to it.

Or, just not make a big deal of your beliefs.
Example: I turned down the Agnostic T-Shirt. I'd never wear a target on my fat body. smile009.gif

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There is no picture of me to photo shop or share anywhere on the internet. I have had trouble with men due to something. Stalker. Seeking me outside of Agnostic on FB. No picture there either. I now understand when years ago the Native American women on the Navajo Reservation eshewed photos. I dislike the intrusion into the autonomy of my body & my being.

Mooolah Level 8 Feb 18, 2019
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Move to Europe. I live in Spain, a land that was dominated by the Catholic church until the death of France in 1975. Nowadays, the people here least tolerant of atheists are NOT Spanish. UK is similarly tolerant. It's only in the lands where religious extremists abound that there is intolerance - think Arabia and America.

Petter Level 8 Feb 18, 2019

I find Spain that way too. And it's so odd because any of the Spanish people who want to live their religion have lots of services to take part in, including the frequent processions through the streets. I love the colour of it all.

@brentan The secret, of course, is tolerance.

@Petter Gosh, yes - live and let live.

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In some areas it can cost you a job and garner harassment.

My vehicle was repeatedly vandalized in the parking lot of my employer and I suffered a bit of harassment from some members of management.

There would also be a lot of social ostracism. I have lost friends over it, have been viewed with suspicion, suspected of being the liar in any dispute etc

Lucy_Fehr Level 8 Feb 18, 2019
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The only way this will change is if we do come out, let people know who we are and they can realize they liked and respected us before and they still like us now. If they don't you don't really want to waste any more of your time with them anyway.

That's easier said than done when you've got the specter of a mortgage, a car payment, and/or the like hanging over your head and you have to worry about whether or not it will cost you your job.

@ProudMerrie I guess you're right. I kept it under wraps for many years. I came out when I noticed some of my neighbors said that they were secular and I was semi-retired (small business owner). Also, Oregon may be a different environment than where you live. I wish you the best.

@rogueflyer Thanks. It's one of the reasons I'm planning on getting the hell out of Dodge.

@ProudMerrie Oops, I just noticed you're from W.V. Difficult state to practice rational and critical thinking. Where are you moving to?

@rogueflyer I haven't decided yet.

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I have been asked if I worshiped satan. It was hilarious and disturbing.

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Yes. America is still about 5 decades away from accepting Atheists don't eat babies, aren't sending our wicked ways through osmosis to unsuspecting indoctrinated minds, aren't rallying down on the corner making plans to obtain World domination, and aren't gang stalking our religious neighbors.

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Christians fear gays and atheists and are certain they don’t know any of “those people.”

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In rural areas you could lose your job. It's a real thing.

Orbit Level 7 Feb 17, 2019
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I think it's a fair response, bigpaw. I can put my photo up because I have nothing to lose. If my ex was on this site and she did it, she would have paid a helluva price.

brentan Level 8 Feb 17, 2019
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I refuse to judge others. That's my real photo, for what it is worth. That said, others could have a number of reasons to not show their face. I support other people making their own choices. I came for the conversation, and meeting others was secondary. I did meet someone happily, so it goes.

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I do understand the stated reasons for reluctance to reveal themselves, but in my opinion, if they don’t want people to know, or they are afraid, they shouldn't be here.

And that would mean we have little to no outlet for our non-belief. I have a job that I love. Should my board of directors or my donors find out that I'm an agnostic or atheist, it very well could affect my job. That's why I'm in the closet. If I shouldn't be here, then where would you recommend that I go to find like-minded people?

I'm surprised to hear something like this coming from you. Then again, you're older and risk almost nothing by being here.

Where should the closeted unbelievers go then?

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