I really liked your suggestion of " Preferably a park where he's the odd color out."

It's the only way these idiots ever gain a sense of humanity, it seems.

@DenoPenno Yep, he was in his own apartment and she was the trespasser. Her excuse was she worked a long shift and thought she was in her apartment!!! Black man dead again thanks to stupid fucking white people.

I can’t help but “believe” that a white person in a similar yard cleaning scenario would receive a wave from the passing patrol officer as he drove on by.

@Science-guy Exactly!

try murder.

No! Stop apologizing for bad policemen. There never should have been an "incident" to begin with. If the "man" had been white, we would not be talking about this.

@godef you're right had he been white we wouldn't. It would have still happened the same way but we wouldn't talk about it. You know how I know, by the number of whites shot by police.
Every year the police in the US arrest 14 million people but kill 1,000. That means 00.007% chance during an arrest you might be shot. Since there isn't a record of how many police calls without arrests; I used the arrest number which is less. Of the 1,000~, 25% are black, 15% are Latino, 40% white.

@Biosteelman I disagree, this would not have gone down the way it did if he is white. You are naive.

@godef 40% of cop shootings are white people 35% of all shootings are unarmed, +/- 5 % due to small sample sizes and variations every year.
You are willfully ignorant and buying into a media agenda. Police show up in numbers, the less compliant the more numbers. It is literally part of the de-esclation training started by the Obama administration, create distance, maintain a barrier, create as much time as needed.
You're old enough to have watched "Cops" on live tv. The majority of the suspects were white on the show. The cops always pulled their guns out.

Here's a fun fact to consider that no one ever takes into consideration, larger people are met with more aggressive behaviour by cops. Hence women don't get shot at nearly the rate of men,but in guess I'm too naive, or maybe its because I actually understand statistics and spread distribution and look into what may cause disparity in numbers.

Uncompliance with an officer always leads to problems though.

And WHY would the officer assume anything other that the man either lived there or was working there? It’s a case of blatant racist profiling and that kind of thing needs to be stopped!!

My “assumption” is that some law abiding citizen called the police to report a suspicious person. At least that’s my read of it. As you indicated, this may never have happened if “white”.

I do agree that the initial context of most of these videos is not shown due to whatever reason. I do like the body cams as they have exonerated both police and civilians even in cases such as this one.

@WilliamFleming
Hence why the full version is required.
We can all assume whatever we want about this but until we see just how this set up we won’t have nothing our assumptions and biases to go off.

So if the officer received a complaint from a neighbor who didn’t recognize the individual and assumed that the individual was possibly doing something illegal.
Especially if there’s been criminal activity in the area such as break ins or other theft.

The officer is going to ask him who he is, does he live there and if not just what is he doing there?
If the officer did his job properly for which we cannot see then the individual might’ve escalated it.

If he approached the individual with his hand on his weapon and making demands then he was wrong and the video will show that.
So more evidence is what’s necessary before we can make a full judgment.

Jussie Smollett as an example

I can not speak as a person of colour, but I do know that if I were subjected to consistent racism I would likely develop an attitude too. We sit here immersed in our white privilege and have no experience in what good people of colour go through on an almost daily basis.

@BeerAndWine Yes, I try to judge things without any bias. There’s always an assumption with news stories like this that racism is the cause. I’m sorry, but the mere fact that the person is black does not prove racism. That may be the case, but that is not what I observed. What can be observed is a person refusing to cooperate with police.

@Science-guy Bad behavior is not an excuse for more bad behavior. That may be my white privelage speaking, but it’s the only voice I have.

@indirect76 open your mind. It’s subtle at times but the racism surrounds us. It manifests itself on the words we speak, the tone of voice, the assumption of guilt

@indirect76 What proves racism in this case is that the officer had no reason in the world to assume anything other than that the man lived there or was working there.

And the man DID cooperate! He presented proof of his residency. IMO such officers need to be fired and replaced with Black police officers.

@WilliamFleming We don’t really know what circumstances lead to the officer being there and questioning this man. I’d say the officer wasn’t making any assumptions.

Yes, the man EVENTUALLY cooperated. IMO if such officers need to be fired they should be replaced with a qualified person without regard for their race.

@Science-guy If only I could be so woke. Maybe one day.

@TheMiddleWay I am sure he can be excused for not having valid ID while working around his home. ? it’s the third world countries, run by oppressive regimes, that insist that citizens carry identity papers at all times.

@Science-guy Being a person of color and having cops pull guns on me and having been detained multiple times for walking down the street. Compliance keeps you from getting shot or going to jail.

@BeerAndWine

Yes, the police are here to serve us. Does that mean they should let all criminals go? I can see a bank robber running out of a bank. The cops say freeze, then the robber says “You’re here to serve us”. “Aw shit sarge”, the cops says “he’s got us there. I guess we have to let him go.” Do you see how inane that is to say?

From what I can tell, the guy never went to jail. It seems like the guy lived there. So there would be no reason to go to jail, other than the way he handled the situation. After all that they let him go, so why not skip the drama and comply?

Was the cop in his rights to unholster his pistol? The guy had a metal object and a bucket containing, who knows what. He was ordered to put it down and would not do so. The use of his weapon seems justified. The guy just needed to comply.

Yeah! Why not just kiss the officer's ass?

The story is backed up with this link:

[dailycamera.com]

@WilliamFleming that's what Nancy Pelosi described as legitimizing your story by reporting a story that reported on what you said .lol