What specifically happened that made you turn into an atheist/ nonbeliever?
I was sent to church every Sunday as a child (so parents could have a few hours 'alone'. When I was 7 or 8 the vicar put out the usual plea for more money and I realised he was driving a big rover car, while most people walked, bicycled or caught a bus - that was when I started questioning morality of the church. Which led me to question war, poverty and so much more.
I asked the counselor at a bible camp “how do we know there is god”, when I was 8. The response was “ you just know”
I found that woefully inadequate and my doubt only grew from there. Left the church at 13 and became agnostic, evolved to atheist in early 20’s.
I left at 14 and evolved in my early twenties. It wasn't like l had an epiphany.
@Sticks48 I was 15.
@Katsarecool Did you drift into non-belief after leaving the church like we did, or was it sudden?
@Sticks48 during cathesism classes, it was fairly sudden. Tho I gave my eye opening experience some though.
The more I learned about religion and science, the more I realized it was all fiction. Simply put, it was education.
When I was around 9 growing up in a very poor country I prayed a lot for miracles, but nothing happen. I thought to myself if I was a god I wouldn't let anything horible happen to people. God's supposed to help people! Now as an adult I do see the psychological reason why some people need religion.
I moved out of my mother's house, no church around (or I did not knew where it was), so I stopped receiving the emotional feedback from religion, so slowly the rational side took over and I could start thinking straight.
Was not exactly a turn, was more like a sustained fight between rational and emotional until the first day I could say that I did not believe...
I found out there was no Santa Claus.
In 6th grade I questioned a priest regarding eating meat on friday being a mortal sin. I asked him what is the job of the church? He didn't know what I was getting at, so I said isn't it the job of the church to get us to heaven? He agreed. So why is the church making up rules that will send us to hell? "How dare you" was his response. I've been an atheist ever since. And happily so.
I read the bible.
Yeah me too. I found the OT very revolting.
The "sacrament" of confession. That I needed to tell some guy in a dark room how many times I rubbed one of out I'd go to hell , that made the adolescent me start to reconsider the nature of sin, and once you pull that first thread it all starts to unravel. It all came together when I heard this answer from a personal hero of mine, Linus Pauling. They asked him what he believes, he said "I believe that all complicated phenomena can be explained using simple scientific principles." That resonated with me, and still does 45 years later.
When I was 13, Michigan had a long, hard winter. Drifting snow covered the first floor of the house on the lake side.
Bored and restless, my 10 year-old brother and I decided to read the World Encyclopedias. Reading about rational philosophers Descartes and Spinoza fired my mind.
I realized the Bible is just a book of stories written by men.
At age 13, I became an atheist. I chose rational thought over magical beliefs.
Also hypocrisy. I was appalled by Christians who removed their Sunday manners with their Sunday clothes.
An idiot preacher told me that after I was saved my life and the lives of those around me would all change for the better. I learned very quickly that it would not fix my Dad's alcoholism, make my grandfather well, stop kids from teasing me about being the bootleggers daughter and a myriad list of other things. Thanks to the Carnegie Public Library I stopped reading dog and horse stories and started investigating other solutions and religions. I eventually realized I had no control over fixing anything but me.
When I was a child there was short period of time when I asked everyone I could why they believed in God and none of the answers ever made any sense and were self-evidently false.
Nobody said "faith"?
@morlll I don’t remember specifically if they said “Faith” but I doubt that would’ve made much sense to me. I was a child.
All I know is I was like 12 sitting in bible school learning about the great fall and suddenly I was like "um I don't actually believe in this" and got up and left and never went back.
The harassment, abuse, assaults, and hatred I got for it only further cemented my stance.
I left Sunday shcool at 11 or 12 too. It was my choice, my parents let me. Dad was an atheist, my was Christian "light". I'm sorry you went thought that. I had atheistic friends. We would laugh at religious kids out loud. We weren't nice about it. Stuff like yeah "are you going to heaven? I'll take hell if heaven is full of assholes like you". It wasn't really an issue till somebody brought it up and they if they were militant they got back what they gave. We were rude little shits in retrospect.
I'm sorry for the hell they put you through.
When I was growing up religion was never really brought up in our house so I didn't really think about it at all. I guess maybe I thought we were non practicing Christians or something since everyone else around us was Christians. In middle school biology class our teacher (who was actually a tech ed teacher who was asked to teach biology because I guess they were short on teachers or something...) assigned us the very ridiculous (in my opinion) assignment to write an essay on whether or not we believed evolution was real. We had never been asked to write a similar opinion essay on any of the other concepts we had been taught and I remember turning to my friend next to me and asking "what the heck is going on with this assignment, it's weird?" and her turning back to me and saying that she thought evolution was made up and that God did it all. In that moment everything solidified in my mind, it was all bs. That assignment really backfired for that teacher whose aim was, I'm sure, to discredit the theory of evolution. I was nonreligious all along but that was the moment that it was solidified.
It was my priest actually in our one on one cathesism classes. I had many many questions about religion and the Bible.
I stumped him on the last one, about Cain, what happened after he got kicked out of the Garden and where did the people come from?
He said Cain found the Nubians. He went on to say, "that's where faith comes into play." I was chastised for my eye roll.
I left the church unconfirmed. That was in 1965, when I was 15.
That's interesting! How could Cain have found anyone? Adam & Eve fuck and make Cain and Abel! So who the hell made the nubians? Such religious bullshit!
I thought about whether or not there was any evidence for the existence of a god and I thought about whether the concept made any sense.
There wasn't a specific event. I was raised a Catholic and went through the whole process - Catechism, Alter Boy, Confirmation and all that crap. Then after leaving the service nearly 30 years ago I started hitch hiking around the country. While doing that I made some observations that didn't tell me that "God" wasn't real but rather that we're here because we are and die because we do and our relatives don't watch over us after they pass away. Before I knew it, I was more aligned with being a non-theist than I was a Catholic. But it was never anything that I was really thinking about or paid much attention to.
I feel like the doubt was always there, and by early teens I was very confident I was right...
I didn't understand how Santa could fit down everyone's chimneys, how he had time to hit every home in the world, and how he could carry so many presents. When I learned he was bogus it just made so much more sense. A few years later I developed a lot of the same practicality type questions about gods until one day it hit me, maybe they're BS too?!?! So I started digging. Very shortly after that I doubted gods were real. And certainly didn't believe the christian version. From then on I sought answers to my questions in the sciences. Go science!